| Archive for Downsizer For an ethical approach to consumption |
| Treacodactyl |
What happened to global warming?http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8299079.stm |
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| ksia |
I do wish the Green movement wouldn't concentrate on climate change so much.
Its too easy for Jo Schmo to say "Well I don't feel any warmer" and dismiss it all. |
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| shaunb |
Re: What happened to global warming?
WHAT? For F*** Sake, whatever you want to call it, its bloody-well happening and its due to human activities. We either do something about it NOW or our children pay the price. STOP tossing your orbs about nonsense and get on with being part of the solution. |
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| shaunb |
Which is why we should educate the proletariat that Global Climate Change isn't restricted to their village. |
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| shaunb |
Thinking about it really, i don't see why we should bother to save such a plebbish species as humanity. However, there are exceptions......... | ||||
| Treacodactyl |
Re: What happened to global warming?
I am doing something about it, well much more than most anyway. That doesn't change the fact that many scientists are still not sure what's causing global warming and what is happening, which I think is the interesting thing about the article. Some might conclude it isn't really a man made problem, others will say it is. What I found worrying is that if we are in for a period of cooling until 2030 then even less will be done to curb emissions and after 2030 the planet could heat up so dramatically that we're all, well, doomed. |
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| Tavascarow |
As the global average atmospheric temperature rises (Which it is or the ice caps wouldn't be retreating as they are) then we in Northern Europe could be facing a drastic cooling period.
Our temperate climate is given to us by the gulf stream & if that switches off due to desalination of the sea then the temp here will fall not rise, regardless of what goes on elsewhere. LINK |
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| Brownbear |
One beneficial side-effect of a drop in temperatures may be an end to these public demonstrations by political extremists.
Stalingrad hasn't seen a BNP march in more than half a century. |
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| JB |
Re: What happened to global warming?
How much are we doing though? I am doing something about it, I personally reduce consumption, I work in a business which is trying to persuade other businesses to reduce consumption. I've reduced my personal consumption to a lot less than the UK average and our clients by a significant percentage and yet even after that we are still consuming far more than is sustainable. The almost exclusive focus on global warming and CO2 is something that I think is a little foolish because, as others have said, it's all too easy for someone to look at one soggy summer (or more intelligently but no more accurately one decades figures) and decide global warming isn't happening and therefore they need to do nothing. There are other, far more incontrovertible, reasons for reducing consumption; simple economics, pollution, energy security, dependence on other countries for manufacturing - all 'bad' things and all reasons to act regardless of what Martin Durkin and others might say. Global warming might be potentially the biggest threat to the planet but people can still do the right thing for purely self centred reasons. |
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| Treacodactyl |
I agree that focusing on CO2 is the wrong thing to do and, of course, it's climate change that's worrying not global warming (as has been said it could get much colder for example). However, personally I don't mind if someone has thought about things and decided that they don't need to worry or whatever, simply because I rarely meet anyone who has actually given the problem any thought at all. That's what worries me the most, the fact hardly anyone seems to think about it. | ||||
| lettucewoman |
Just to clarify, Piers Corbin is not regarded as a serious scientist by most of the people involved in weather prediction etc...he has made many many predictions about weather based on his solar particles idea, and virtually all of them have been discredited, because of the fact that they have been completely wrong!
He is a favourite of the Daily Express though...any headlines warning of catastrophic storms, tempests and other extremes of weather in that paper are usually based on Mr. Corbins nonsense. |
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| Treacodactyl |
I was more interested in the ocean temperature cycles, anyone know much about that? | ||||
| JB |
I'd be curious to know how much energy is stored in the oceans compared to how much energy is available from insolation and the variabilty from solar cycles etc (the last which I knew in the past but have long since forgotten) | ||||
| Biff Vernon |
What happened to global warming? It's carrying on just fine and dandy:
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/10/a-warming-pause/ |
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| dpack |
i recon the evidence is available for warmer and caused by burning fossil fuels but i still keep the skis and big pants as well as the parasol | ||||
| AnneandMike |
The scientific debate on the actuality and causes of global warming is over. It is not surprising that multi-decadal ocean oscillations affect the year-on-year warming rate. If that is now holding back the warming, how much greater will it be when it provides positive feedback!
Most people don't care because they don't think it will affect them personally. This is a logical but stupid conclusion because they are ignorant of the possibilities. Maybe when the grain growing areas of N America turn to desert and rice production is ruined by monsoon failures, when our screens are full of visions of mass famine and its associated turmoil and violence rather than Strictly X boredom, maybe then they will start to think. In the meantime, read the latest Committee on Climate Change report to the government to see what we need to do. |