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king rat

Where do you draw the line ?

I have a mate who is really adventurous and would eat about anything. He reckons he would happilly eat a fox as it is only meat as he puts it. He is adamant that when the family pet cat dies, he is going to eat it Rolling Eyes In reality he is probably right, at the end of the day it is meat after all. What do you reckon ??
Behemoth

Just because you can doesn't mean you have to.

I can't imagine a stringy old cat would make a great meal but if your crops have failed, your live stock is dead and you are looking at fields of dust there might be a need. Otherwise you might be posturing.
king rat

I totally agree, I can't say that fox fricasee or cat casserole turns me on at all. It is just an interesting point that he makes and believes in.
Hairyloon

Re: Where do you draw the line ?

king rat wrote:
Iat the end of the day it is meat after all.

Hmmm. You could take that idea to extremes. Don't think I fancy the main course at his funeral banquet. Confused
Cobnut

My line is drawn at eating insects as the thought just makes me shudder. Itís silly really as Iíll eat seafood, which is just as strange-looking, but thatís social conditioning for you. Iíd happily eat most other things provided I know theyíve had a humane death and arenít full of nasty chemicals, which would probably rule out my dogs as mine have had to be PTS. Iím not sure I could eat an animal I once adored though to be honest, or at least Iíd have to freeze it until Iíd stopped mourning.

It always pains me to leave road kill but usually it just isnít anywhere safe to stop and pick it up. I couldíve had a lovely pheasant and a wood pigeon yesterday otherwise.
Green Man

Re: Where do you draw the line ?

king rat wrote:
He is adamant that when the family pet cat dies, he is going to eat it Rolling Eyes In reality he is probably right, at the end of the day it is meat after all. What do you reckon ??


I wouldn't knowingly eat anything thet has died of disease be it a plant or animal. Yuck!
boisdevie1

Apparently in Paris in WW2 cat was regularly eaten although people preferred to think of it as rabbit. And in Stalingrad humain remains were eaten. If you are absolutely desperate then I"m sure you'd do anything to stay alive.
It's an interesting idea because most of here eat pork yet we wouldn't eat dog even though the pig is more intelligent. Interesting subject for debate.
Jo S

I have a problem with the thought of eating a meat-eater, especially something that has no known cause of death. The latter is obvious, but I don't know why I have this "meat eater" thing. Maybe I've spent too many years shovelling shit or something?

I'm fine eating animals I knew. The only reason I never tried home-grown suckling pig was because I didn't have a swift method of culling a piglet.

In desperate circumstances, I am sure I could eat almost anything. I once ate a fish's eyeball on a dare in a science lesson.
lottie

I'd rather eat a cooked fox [Weil's disease and all] than raw fish-- I can eat anything but Sushi.
dpack

cat is a bit strong
never tried fox but they dont smell tasty

insects include some delicious meals
some are horrid
Slim

I've wondered about this sort of thing myself. Every year when I get a hunting permit, it includes a bear tag with the buck tag. While yes, we have plenty of black bear around here, I don't think I'm familiar with it enough to cook it well, and it feels weird killing such a keystone species.
Greenfoot

I would rather become a vegetarian before eating such cuts of meat.
Lloyd

It's an interesting point raised about not eating carnivores. I think most people or maybe whole societies seem to share this view to some degree. In Britain, how many carnivorous species are commonly eaten? Not many, apart from fish of course.
JB

Greenfoot wrote:
I would rather become a vegetarian before eating such cuts of meat.


Why? Surely if that's true you should already be a vegetarian? They might not make great meals but ethically there should be no difference between eat cat or beef or fox or pork?
JB

Behemoth wrote:
Just because you can doesn't mean you have to.

I can't imagine a stringy old cat would make a great meal ...


Probably OK for stock though?
Shane

boisdevie1 wrote:
Apparently in Paris in WW2 cat was regularly eaten although people preferred to think of it as rabbit.
They called them roof rabbits in Alsace - the wife's grandparents used to tell the same story.
Bodger

Roof rabbit ?
Many people ate cat during the second world war, in the belief that they were eating rabbit. Some wise people insisted that kidneys were left in situ on any rabbit that they purchased. Apparently the position of the kidneys was a dead give away. In one species, the kidneys are directly opposite, while in the other, they were off set. I can't remember which was said to be which, so consequently, I always catch my own rabbits and therby, avoid eating cat. Very Happy
pricey

Cat is orrible Would never eat it again, but Dog is good, very good.
matt_hooks

Hmmm, I just ran over a fox (quite deliberate, they are a huge pest with the chickens round here, the farmer will thank me) and am now considering going back and picking it up! I've eaten just about every other species it's legal to shoot in the UK, certainly mammal wise and most of the birds too, but for some reason it didn't occur to me to bring the fox carcass home, I have no idea why!
Behemoth

In Vietnam I was playing table football in the street with a german bloke when the cafe owner brought a dog out from the back, got to the gutter, gave it a few swift blows with a mallet, too many for comfort, and then after a bit of bleeding dragged the corpse back inside. Never thought of eating dog after that. Probably unknowingly have though.
Rob R

matt_hooks wrote:
Hmmm, I just ran over a fox (quite deliberate, they are a huge pest with the chickens round here, the farmer will thank me) and am now considering going back and picking it up! I've eaten just about every other species it's legal to shoot in the UK, certainly mammal wise and most of the birds too, but for some reason it didn't occur to me to bring the fox carcass home, I have no idea why!


I hope you made sure it was dead - I found one that had been run over a couple of years ago. It couldn't move it's back legs but was dragging it's body across the road as I went back to the Landrover for a shovel - it was pretty grim, even though they are a pest.
matt_hooks

Rob R wrote:


I hope you made sure it was dead


But of course. I reversed and ran over it's skull with 2 1/2 tonnes of jeep, trust me, it was dead! Nevertheless I did get out to check and all life signs were extinct, if not the trusty wheelbrace would have been employed.

Normally I would have done my utmost to avoid hitting it, but I know that the farmer here loses a lot of chickens and turkeys to them, and is always keen for me to go out and shoot them, so I figured I'd take the opportunity when it was offered. It was a BIG dog fox, and he was in cracking condition, obviously been feeding well! In many ways it's a shame to kill them, but I know if I don't do it quickly and humanely there are people around here who will use baited rabbits and nasty snares, which risk injuring/killing peoples pet dogs, or leaving a fox to die a slow lingering death. I know if it came to it I'd prefer a bullet in the brain (or possiby a jeep to the skull) to a snare or poison!

I had to stop and wring a bunnies neck the other day, just like your fox, it was scrabbling around with it's front legs, it's rear end was completely paralysed. I left that on the side of the road too, and when I came back later to pick it up for dogfood it had gone, I'm assuming foxy had it!
Rob R

Good Smile
matt_hooks

Hmmm, went back this morning to look at it and maybe pick it up, and it's gone. Now this is a country road, private so the council won't have picked it up, and it was well to the side of the road so no reason for it to be moved, so maybe someone else had the same idea?

If I'd not got out and checked I might have thought that I hadn't killed it properly, but live things don't leak brains like that!
Hill farmer

If he was to eat his cat thats a choice for him.
Before he does I would ask him to consider what his cat died of ?
Shane

Behemoth wrote:
In Vietnam I was playing table football in the street with a german bloke when the cafe owner brought a dog out from the back, got to the gutter, gave it a few swift blows with a mallet, too many for comfort, and then after a bit of bleeding dragged the corpse back inside. Never thought of eating dog after that. Probably unknowingly have though.
I had the same in India - was sitting in a roadside bar enjoying an after-work beer with a couple of colleagues when a goat got walked into the butcher's opposite and processed in front of us.

Didn't put me of the goat curries, though. Mind you, they were exceptionally good Smile
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