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Longshoreman
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 1 Location: On the beach
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 05 8:18 am Post subject: Flotsum or jetsum |
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Wasn't sure whether this should go in foragering or fishing, but what is the legal difference between the two? |
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sally_in_wales Downsizer Moderator
Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 20221 Location: sunny wales
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sally_in_wales Downsizer Moderator
Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 20221 Location: sunny wales
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 05 8:43 am Post subject: |
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Actually, this would make a great topic for an article- something that just sets out simply the legal do's and don'ts of foraging (in the broadest sense) on the shoreline. I know bits of it have been touched on elsewhere in discussions on shellfish- do we have anyone with any expertise in that area who could help pull it together? |
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tahir
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 41493 Location: Essex
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 05 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Good idea Sally, wonder if any of our members could put something together for us. |
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dougal
Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 7184 Location: South Kent
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 05 9:16 am Post subject: |
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Welcome to the site Longshoreman!
I think there is in practice a very significant difference between small-scale personal beachcombing and any significant commercial operation, or disturbance of historical artifacts.
I doubt that anyone is going to become exercised about you taking home an empty beer crate that you fished out of the sea.
On the other hand, I doubt that you have any legal claim whatsoever to ownership of a containerload of Whisky that you were the first to spot washed up on your local beach...
Officially, ALL wreck material which comes from UK territorial waters, and any wreck which is landed in the UK from outside UK territorial waters must by law (Section 236 of the Merchant Shipping Act 1995) be declared to the Receiver of Wreck.
Wreck is defined as anything which is found in or on the sea, or washed ashore from tidal water. All items which are raised, regardless of age or importance, must be reported to the Receiver of Wreck.
There's more here:
http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/mcga-environmental/mcga-dops_row_receiver_of_wreck/mcga-dops_row_law.htm
EDIT: See also the page on "Salvage" on the same site.
Note that "salvage" in this context means the rescuers' claim for reward for recovering/saving someone else's property.
Last edited by dougal on Wed Sep 21, 05 9:34 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Bugs
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 10731
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 05 9:22 am Post subject: |
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Probably unrelated but on last week's Antiques Roadshow there was a woman with a huge lump of carved wood she'd found on the beach. Expert said it was I think 17c, could be from a ship but was more likely from a house and had got washed down river - looked like panelling or a bedstead. It was worth about £500-ish and they didn't mention either way whether she should have kept it or not. |
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 05 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks folks that's really interesting and good links too.
Can't seem to log on now though Any techies here, I know nowt about computers
Thanks
Longshoreman |
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sally_in_wales Downsizer Moderator
Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 20221 Location: sunny wales
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 05 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks folks that's really interesting and good links too.
Can't seem to log on now though Any techies here, I know nowt about computers
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I'm not very technically minded myself, but have you tried logging out and logging in again, or maybe check your password? If that fails, maybe a post to the 'site guidelines' bit of the forum explaining what seems to be glitching will get some more technical advice. |
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dpack
Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 21636 Location: yes
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 05 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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thats no very traditional me hansome |
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