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Marionb



Joined: 27 Aug 2006
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Location: Mid-Wales
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 11 12:08 pm    Post subject: Shotgun cabinets Reply with quote    

I am looking to get a shotgun cabinet. The one that was here before was kept under the stairs. I'm wondering where else I could put one, as whilst being under the stairs meant it was out if sight it did get in the way and the door opened the wrong way which meant that it was difficult to see what you were doing when getting a gun out / putting it away. It seems that you can get them opening the other way but this costs £40+ more.

So I'm wondering where everyone else keeps their cabinets. Also if anyone in mid Wales happens to have one they are looking to sell, I'd love to hear about it.

Thanks

sean
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: North Devon
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 11 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

If you turned it upside down it would open the other way.

Brownbear



Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14930
Location: South West
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 11 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Anywhere not on display and with a solid brick, block, stone or concrete wall to bolt it to. Backs of wardrobes, cubbyholes etc is a favourite.

vegplot



Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 19919
Location: Ynys Môn
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 11 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Brownbear wrote:
Anywhere not on display and with a solid brick, block, stone or concrete wall to bolt it to. Backs of wardrobes, cubbyholes etc is a favourite.


I've been thinking about that for our straw bale build.

Brownbear



Joined: 28 May 2007
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Location: South West
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 11 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Aren't you going to build a concrete-lined cellar and arsenal? With Spiral stairs leading down from a hatch in the floor?

I thought that the desire for a cellar/bunker was the main reason to build ones own home.

vegplot



Joined: 19 Apr 2007
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Location: Ynys Môn
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 11 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Brownbear wrote:
Aren't you going to build a concrete-lined cellar and arsenal? With Spiral stairs leading down from a hatch in the floor?

I thought that the desire for a cellar/bunker was the main reason to build ones own home.


It's all peace and love these days, unless they trip the perimeter alarms then it's nails and glass.

Pea



Joined: 19 Sep 2005
Posts: 956
Location: Rugby
PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 11 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Edited on the grounds of being a bit *too* informative. Cheers, sean

Brownbear



Joined: 28 May 2007
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Location: South West
PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 11 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Pea wrote:
where we hide our guns


Excellent. As you helpfully provide both your address, and your phone number so I can check if you're in, I'll pop round and steal your guns in the near future and use them to commit terrible crimes.

SmattyB



Joined: 26 Oct 2006
Posts: 127
Location: Just landed in Aarhus, Denmark.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 11 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I don't believe you, you're nicer than that

alice



Joined: 18 Feb 2006
Posts: 2811

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 11 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Back in the day, when I was growing up, my brother kept his shotgun behind the sofa and his cartridges in the fruit bowl

Jamanda
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Joined: 22 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 11 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

SmattyB wrote:
I don't believe you, you're nicer than that


BB may be nicer than that, but not everyone is, and what he points out about Pea's details is true.

matt_hooks



Joined: 01 Aug 2010
Posts: 311
Location: Lambourn(ish) Berkshire
PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 11 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

There are no restrictions on the storage of shotgun cartridges, so the fruit bowl is an entirely legal place to keep them. Wouldn't fancy biting in to one though, it's bad enough biting in to a shot in a pheasant, so hundreds of them wouldn't be fun!

And as BB says, any solid wall, where they are fairly well out of sight, should be fine. The test in theory is that it takes more than 200N of force to pull them off, but I've never heard of an FEO turning up with a spring balance and hanging off a safe.

The gun safe is purely there to put opportunist burglars off. It's understood that if someone is intent on stealing the guns, no safe will hold for ever. This is why above a certain number of guns they will want increased overall security, including a silent alarm.

Hots



Joined: 23 Sep 2010
Posts: 346
Location: Suffolk
PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 11 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

A long, long time ago, pre-Hungerford, my farmer kept his under the bed.
One Sunday we went out and when we returned the gun had been nicked.
Our cabinet is bolted to the wall inside a cupboard now.

(We've a hockey stick under the bed, just in case ).

RichardW



Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 7979
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales
PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 11 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

matt_hooks wrote:
The test in theory is that it takes more than 200N of force to pull them off,


Are you sure its 200N & not 200KN. 200N is only the static force applied by 20kg.

A 1" number 8 wood screw into solid timber could hold that.

cuff



Joined: 02 Apr 2006
Posts: 132

PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 11 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

mines in a bed room out of the way but how many of you keep it in there all the timewhat happens if you have been out in the wet all day you cant dry it that quick to put it away

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