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Nick



Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 33600
Location: Hereford
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 13 7:45 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

Yeah, you're right. Leave me alone, I'm still hungover.

nugger



Joined: 03 Feb 2013
Posts: 27
Location: North Florida
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 13 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

We live in the woods where every one else as guns, what would you do? The 22 is for small game & slaughtering, the 12 gauge is at the side of my bed for protection & it will take down large animals if needed when used with buck shot & the 9mm is in a place thats handy in case i need it but I can also take it out with me when I go fishing, again for protection. This is America think on, not uk.
Woman out with a 13 month baby in a buggy, not far from here in Georgia was approached by a 14 year old & asked her for money & cos she didn't give em any they shot her baby in the face, this happened a few days back.Lots of crazy people over here!

Cathryn



Joined: 16 Jul 2005
Posts: 19829
Location: Ceredigion
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 13 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I do hope then that one of those guns you own is a handgun so you can shoot the crazy fourteen year old. Only way to solve it really.

Nick



Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Location: Hereford
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 13 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

What would I do?

Move.

nugger



Joined: 03 Feb 2013
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Location: North Florida
PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 13 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I did move lol, going back31 years I had my car stolen from outside my house, local guys had taken it, police found it & i got it back, next week 2am the wife you was due to have our first child woke me & said, they are trying to steal the car again. Threw some jeans on & ran outside bare foot, just as they were trying to start the car but couldn't. They started to free wheel in reverse as we lived on a hill, I ran down & pulled the door open, grabbed the driver out & the other guy ran off. The guy I had ended up unconscious & the police took him away. 2 years later he shot & killed a guy that came to his door threatening his sister but the guy he killed was a bad guy that had killed 2 people & even stole a body out of the hospital morgue & attempted to cut its head off to throw it thru some ones window! but he chickened out & dumped the body at the back of a working mens club, he was found out but the only thing they could charge him with was stealing a shroud. The point I am making is that there is bad people where ever you go, its just evened up over here cos not only does the bad people have guns but the good guys have em toooooooooooooooooo.

oldish chris



Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Posts: 4148
Location: Comfortably Wet Southport
PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 13 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

but I really do wish that every American with a gun were to stay in America.

Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 13 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Nick wrote:
What would I do?

Move.


I gather there's something like 3 times more violent crime in the UK compared to the US though. Not something often highlighted by the press but it's not as straight forward as many believe.

Nick



Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Location: Hereford
PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 13 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Theres violent crime where you get thumped, and violent crime where you get shot.

Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 13 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

It's more like there's violent crime where you get stabbed to death and violent crime where you're shot. I.e. not much difference. I agree though that the stats I've seen aren't that comparable but it's not really any safer in places in the UK compared to places in the US.

Nick



Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Location: Hereford
PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 13 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

No. In the US violent crime is one of four specific offenses: murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault.

The British definition includes all “crimes against the person,” including simple assaults, all robberies, and all “sexual offenses". The stats compare apples and oranges.

Massive difference.

Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 13 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Anyone compared like for like then?

nugger



Joined: 03 Feb 2013
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Location: North Florida
PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 13 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/22/antonio-santiago-west-dead-georgia-baby-killed_n_2931273.html

The above is the link to the baby shooting, breaks your heart.

bagpuss



Joined: 09 Dec 2004
Posts: 10505
Location: cambridge
PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 13 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Treacodactyl wrote:
Anyone compared like for like then?


This is an interesting article in that respect

http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com/2013/01/12/fact-checking-ben-swann-is-the-uk-really-5-times-more-violent-than-the-us/

and a set of stats comparisons which I suspect should be taken with a pinch of salt

http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/United-Kingdom/United-States/Crime

nugger



Joined: 03 Feb 2013
Posts: 27
Location: North Florida
PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 13 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I am inclined to agree, I don't hear of many fist fights over here but only last week a friends grandson got hit in the face over a taxi outside a pub, which smashed his eye socket, came close to losing his sight. Another one I remember hearing about a female friend in a taxi line & got called a slag & when she answered back she ended up with a broken shoulder! Lots of pubs in Britain & drinking is a part of life which in turn leads to fights ect, just imagine if guns were allowed, yikes!!

carlos-thejackal



Joined: 20 May 2013
Posts: 48
Location: not there
PostPosted: Mon May 20, 13 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

if guns took a larger part in social interactions in the UK say on a friday-saturday night. I would view it more as a post birth form of contraception.


which might not be a bad thing having just watched Skint on channel 4

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