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cab

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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 11 12:54 am Post subject:
Bloody hell, thats a hell of a pollution incident if its dead for two years. What is still getting in to the water?

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 11 12:58 am Post subject:
they have a planning application in for a rebuild ,any objections ?

dpack

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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 11 1:02 am Post subject:

cab wrote:

Bloody hell, thats a hell of a pollution incident if its dead for two years. What is still getting in to the water?

no idea but sterile since the big one ,not a bug ,not a leech ,not a fungi ,not a plant ,nowt ,cleanstone but not in a good way

well beyond class 5 pollution ,dead in the water ,

dpack

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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 11 11:31 am Post subject:
im about to object to the planning app

dpack

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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 11 11:33 am Post subject:

cab wrote:

Bloody hell, thats a hell of a pollution incident if its dead for two years. What is still getting in to the water?

they were formulating herbicides and biocides ,dont know what but the products work

cab

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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 11 11:39 am Post subject:
Want to send me some samples and I'll do some quick and dirty plate counts, see if its dear right down to the microbe?

dpack

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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 11 11:57 am Post subject:

thanks ,the way it looks the microbe count is very low and the sewers work fine to keep heavy rain in the pipes , very rarely it overflows and flushes but into a raging torrent so it is well diluted and gone soon in the river ,the trout and grayling could cope with that but not with this , the drains are not the problem ..

james , as above ,seems clued up as to the legal process ,thanks mate

would you like to look for extremophiles ?recon anything alive in that water is very hardy

dpack

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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 15 12:23 am Post subject:
not forgotten or forgiven

dpack

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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 15 12:31 am Post subject:
ever they cant even wash their own sign on the plus side it aint looking good and the guilty have names and addresses

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 15 7:51 am Post subject:
The company certainly don't seem to be doing their best to make themselves popular with the locals. I am surprised that the council don't do a compulsory order on the awkward land if it is for a road improvement, even though the money is coming from the company, if that is the real problem.

dpack

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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 15 12:34 pm Post subject:

with fixed assets of 4.5 and liabilities of 9 i dought they have the money to build a road,and if the courts demand the payments the company wont have any assets at all.

they would be even less popular if the fire brigade hadn't risked life and limb to avoid a yorkshire Bhopal ,it was a close run thing from what i was told.

that type of back street chemical industry should be an ugly footnote to the industrial revolution but the continued use planning rules means no body can shut such places directly on thew grounds of location and other ways have to be found.

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 15 7:29 am Post subject:
I am rather surprised that after that catastrophe HSE didn't close them down. They may have been doing everything right of course, but quite often sloppy practise of lack of maintenance is at the root of that sort of thing.

dpack

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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 15 12:21 pm Post subject:

lack of maintenance to a building =wet electrics=sparkyfizzley fault=fire iirc.

the problem with such companies is that regulators are always playing catch up,have rather short teeth if it does get messy and lack the legislation and resources to get pre emptive.

think i keep remembering is not that they killed my river but they could have killed a few thousand folk in their sleep if it had gone only slightly differently.the place is very close to a lot of homes .

jamanda
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Joined: 22 Oct 2006
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Location: Devon

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 15 8:06 pm Post subject:
Dpack, is anyone in your area doing this? https://www.riverflies.org/riverfly-recording-schemes

dpack

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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 15 9:52 pm Post subject:
not that i know of ,i now live on the ouse rather than the colne and this river does not seem to have much in the way of clean water flies it has fish but im not sure what they depend on

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