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Rob R



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 16 9:11 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

john of wessex wrote:
Pass the mind bleach..............


Downsizer bulk buy?

dpack



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 16 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

perhaps but no sort of bleach will calm those and i have a bit of an urge to source a pair of the zigzag ones for meetings with corporate negotiators

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 16 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

dpack wrote:
perhaps but no sort of bleach will calm those...

I have half a sack of potassium hydroxide: should at least cause some fading.

sean
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 16 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Behemoth wrote:


Which one's you?

dpack



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 16 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

perfect market wear lower right

on a more serious note might there be anything that would add to diversity and profit for little extra effort at the market?

if it is a good idea to continue the stall for wtc,out of the house meeting folk and sometimes a decent money return on effort etc etc would adding any other "lines" help make it better?.

im not suggesting knitted goods(although chicken hats and hats for chickens as well as"different" egg and teapot cosies have featured on ds over the years) but perhaps there is a future for diversification into portable ,non perishable, small things(perhaps with a chookish theme) if it is easy and potentially worth while it might help to fill the out of lay season tight patch by serving the winter festival,spring(often chook related) festival gift seasons.

Chez



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Location: The Hive of the Uberbee, Quantock Hills, Somerset
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 16 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

We're going to try to get honey going, and are investigating getting Ma's Jacob's fleece carded and spun up to sell. We sell pickled eggs when we get a chance to make them and are thinking about doing onions as well. It's a time thing, really.

Lorrainelovesplants



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Location: Cornwall
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 16 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

The honey will give you a good price per unit, but you'll need to pray for a good summer.
What about jams & chutneys?

Lorrainelovesplants



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 16 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

The honey will give you a good price per unit, but you'll need to pray for a good summer.
What about jams & chutneys?

dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 16 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

pickled eggs is a good idea(they are not my thing but some folk love em and they dont seem to be often stocked in supermarkets etc the cash and carry pub sized ones are often poor quality so you might pick up some pub trade for pre ordered larger jars, perhaps even top end outlets with pickled quail eggs ),onions are rather time heavy(and perhaps dont have enough mark up to justify the peeling,blanching etc etc ) .
im not sure how much demand there is for yarn but i recon it might be worth a try if it might be economically viable but it is bulky and needs quite careful handling to prevent tangles ,soiling(one kamikaze egg could wipe out the stock)getting damp etc .
honey is a good one,it fits in with the real eggs,market garden theme and is high value vs space and has a good shelf life, so long as the weather n bees play nicely i recon it is a very plausible extra.if you have bees you beeswax as well and with a bit of time and some string you have candles which have a very good mark up especially for winter festival season.

jema
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 16 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

As has been mentioned on another thread, fermented veg, e.g. Sauerkraut is an in thing, and very easy.

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 16 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Chez wrote:
We're going to try to get honey going, and are investigating getting Ma's Jacob's fleece carded and spun up to sell. We sell pickled eggs when we get a chance to make them and are thinking about doing onions as well. It's a time thing, really.

If you're looking at expanding your range, would you be interested in selling oil?
There is someone here that makes speciality vinegars as well...

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 16 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

If you are going into selling honey, beeswax candles are a good seller too. Foundation candles are easy to make and so can go for a low price so are very popular. If you make chutneys etc. you have to have health approved premises, so a bit more awkward. Honey you don't have to.

Chez



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 16 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I have health approved premises already - for the pickled.eggs - so anything else we can do involving that wouldn't be an issue. Preserves and jams and sauerkraut etc I can't do - we have demarcation and there are already people doing those. I think I will see if I canbe a bit more organised with the honey.

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 16 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I thought you might have it for the pickled eggs, but wasn't sure, which was why I put it in. Honey and wax products are reasonably good sellers, but again, not great profit in each item.

RichardW



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Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales
PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 16 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

john of wessex wrote:
Chez wrote:


Yes.

The housing benefit thing is a side issue - just that they've changed the way they assess it for the self employed. Regardless of what you earn, if you are self employed, they assume you are working 35 hrs a work and earning £7.20 and you have to justify yourself if you aren't.



Reg 38 Housing Benefit Regulations 2006

regulation 38 Calculation of net profit of self-employed earners (1) For the purposes of regulation 30 (average weekly earnings of self-employed earners) the earnings of a claimant to be taken into account shall beó
(a) in the case of a self-employed earner who is engaged in employment on his own account, the net profit derived from that employment;

Basically if the Local Authority are calculating your earnings as you state they are acting unlawfully. If you have applied for HB & they have put you through that process I suggest a formal complaint needs to go in first thing tomorrow, along with an appeal.

Citizens Advice can help, if not PM me


That is the way the new universal credit is going to treat the selfemployed.

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