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vegplot



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 16 11:12 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

vegplot wrote:
Try Zen Internet. Which? Telecom Services Provider of the Year for 2016 is a pretty good recommendation. https://www.zen.co.uk/yourhome/


We use Zen at home. £17.83/month for unlimited broadband.

Nick



Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Location: Hereford
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 16 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

vegplot wrote:
vegplot wrote:
Try Zen Internet. Which? Telecom Services Provider of the Year for 2016 is a pretty good recommendation. https://www.zen.co.uk/yourhome/


We use Zen at home. £17.83/month for unlimited broadband.


Am I being dim?

I'm at the end of wires strung between poles. That can't be fibre, can it? Assuming that's copper, isn't that always going to limit my speed? Zen and BT assure me I can have fibre however, and super fast speeds, etc.

Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 16 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Fibre to the Cabinet (FTTC) still uses your copper phone cable and can give you speed up to 76 Mbps it seems.

http://www.increasebroadbandspeed.co.uk/what-is-fibre-broadband

vegplot



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 16 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Nick wrote:
vegplot wrote:
vegplot wrote:
Try Zen Internet. Which? Telecom Services Provider of the Year for 2016 is a pretty good recommendation. https://www.zen.co.uk/yourhome/


We use Zen at home. £17.83/month for unlimited broadband.


Am I being dim?

I'm at the end of wires strung between poles. That can't be fibre, can it? Assuming that's copper, isn't that always going to limit my speed? Zen and BT assure me I can have fibre however, and super fast speeds, etc.


Two flavours: Fibre to the Cabinet (FTTC) and Fibre to the Premises (FTTP). At the office we have FTTC and varies from around 30 - 70Mbps for a £1 a day. Copper will always be limiting but only at higher capacities. Ethernet is over copper at 100Mbps.

derbyshiredowser



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 16 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Treacodactyl wrote:
Fibre to the Cabinet (FTTC) still uses your copper phone cable and can give you speed up to 76 Mbps it seems.

http://www.increasebroadbandspeed.co.uk/what-is-fibre-broadband


I have 400mtrs of fibre to cab then 400 mtrs of copper to house and get down 69.48mb/s and up 18.25 mb/s all with BT

Nick



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 16 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Ok thanks. Worth knowing. We're on a similar length of cable banging in the wind and trees. I've ordered infinity, but am expecting the worst. We shall see.

tahir



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 16 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I'm 2km from the nearest cabinet

derbyshiredowser



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 16 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

tahir wrote:
I'm 2km from the nearest cabinet


Its 11 years since I left BT but the figure of 5.8 km of 0.5mm diam copper sticks in my mind for bb to work but obviously things have moved on. I'm pretty sure you don't get anything like the losses on fibre compared to copper so I wouldn't dismiss it. I think BT can check what will work before you buy.

tahir



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 16 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

According to BT the cabinet is "fibre enabled" but there's no current plan to bring fibre down to us. How do I get hold of a knowledgable human at BT with whom to discuss this?

tahir



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 16 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I wouldn't be that bothered but our bb is absolutely dire, we are lucky to get 1.5mb dl speed, 2 miles from the middle of Billericay.

Nick



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 16 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

tahir wrote:
According to BT the cabinet is "fibre enabled" but there's no current plan to bring fibre down to us. How do I get hold of a knowledgable human at BT with whom to discuss this?


Report a fault. When the engineer turns up to pole the cabinet about ask him. The guys on the ground round here know the hardware very well.

derbyshiredowser



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 16 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

tahir wrote:
According to BT the cabinet is "fibre enabled" but there's no current plan to bring fibre down to us. How do I get hold of a knowledgable human at BT with whom to discuss this?


I would think they would use your existing copper feed from the cab. To get info on the tech side of things you would do best to ask an BT open world engineer in the street as they hopefully know the local area.

derbyshiredowser



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 16 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Nick wrote:
tahir wrote:
According to BT the cabinet is "fibre enabled" but there's no current plan to bring fibre down to us. How do I get hold of a knowledgable human at BT with whom to discuss this?


Report a fault. When the engineer turns up to pole the cabinet about ask him. The guys on the ground round here know the hardware very well.


If they don't find a fault or its in customers own wiring BT charge £125 for the first 30 mins!!

Nick



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 16 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Yeah they do. Round here the automated fault detection system finds a fault every time I fire it up. They've 'fixed' it six times in the last two months. And I've been away four weeks.

vegplot



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 16 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

tahir wrote:
I'm 2km from the nearest cabinet


less than 20 yards for me.

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