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dpack



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 17 7:17 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

wow what a good reptile habitat, tis nice to see em thriving , i don't remember adders and slow worms in the same place before and assumed that the slow got eaten.

careful training and or control with any dogs and kids round there, though
it takes a bit of daft to get fully bitten kids and dogs do both (so do some adults) and anyone having a careless encounter might get a nip . having known folk who have lost dogs and a couple of near surprises myself i'm quite cautious about adder territory.

buzzy



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 17 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I was a trifle surprised that the FC had no signs up about Adders, given the number of dogs and small children that there were about today. but I suppose they have done some sort of cost benefit analysis. Presumably a "Please do not let your children play with the Adders" would put too many visitors off.

We found two sloughs close together, as I said, and we thought perhaps that yesterday's hot weather had encouraged them to shed, and I imagine the population is quite good.

Not sure about the interactions between Adders and Slow Worms; must remember to ask my Adder expert friend.

Henry

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 17 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

buzzy wrote:
I was a trifle surprised that the FC had no signs up about Adders, given the number of dogs and small children that there were about today. but I suppose they have done some sort of cost benefit analysis. Presumably a "Please do not let your children play with the Adders" would put too many visitors off.


I don't ever recall seeing any warning signs about adders but have often seen adders on FC/Wildlife Trust land.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 17 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Someone sent a serious letter to our Commons Conservators suggesting that in view of the danger to dogs and children from adders they should sort out rounding them all up and relocating them. (The adders, not the dogs and children.)

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 17 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

sean wrote:
Someone sent a serious letter to our Commons Conservators suggesting that in view of the danger to dogs and children from adders they should sort out rounding them all up and relocating them. (The adders, not the dogs and children.)


That doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

Henry

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 17 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    


buzzy



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 17 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Treacodactyl wrote:
buzzy wrote:
I was a trifle surprised that the FC had no signs up about Adders, given the number of dogs and small children that there were about today. but I suppose they have done some sort of cost benefit analysis. Presumably a "Please do not let your children play with the Adders" would put too many visitors off.


I don't ever recall seeing any warning signs about adders but have often seen adders on FC/Wildlife Trust land.


I suspect such notices would attract "adder vigilantes" armed with stout sticks, beating the bushes and trying to exterminate the wicked creatures.

Henry

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 17 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

buzzy wrote:
Treacodactyl wrote:
buzzy wrote:
I was a trifle surprised that the FC had no signs up about Adders, given the number of dogs and small children that there were about today. but I suppose they have done some sort of cost benefit analysis. Presumably a "Please do not let your children play with the Adders" would put too many visitors off.


I don't ever recall seeing any warning signs about adders but have often seen adders on FC/Wildlife Trust land.


I suspect such notices would attract "adder vigilantes" armed with stout sticks, beating the bushes and trying to exterminate the wicked creatures.

Henry


Sadly, I've known people do that to slow worms. I think adders are much more common than many people think, hence the lack of signs otherwise everywhere would need one.

I've never seen adders with other reptiles though; slow worms, grass snakes and common lizards all together

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 17 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Treacodactyl wrote:
buzzy wrote:
Treacodactyl wrote:
buzzy wrote:
I was a trifle surprised that the FC had no signs up about Adders, given the number of dogs and small children that there were about today. but I suppose they have done some sort of cost benefit analysis. Presumably a "Please do not let your children play with the Adders" would put too many visitors off.


I don't ever recall seeing any warning signs about adders but have often seen adders on FC/Wildlife Trust land.


I suspect such notices would attract "adder vigilantes" armed with stout sticks, beating the bushes and trying to exterminate the wicked creatures.

Henry


Sadly, I've known people do that to slow worms. I think adders are much more common than many people think, hence the lack of signs otherwise everywhere would need one.

I've never seen adders with other reptiles though; slow worms, grass snakes and common lizards all together


A lady once rang me about a snake she had found in her garden and wanted me to identify - she thought it might be poisonous so she had got her gardener to kill it. I duly received the body and it was quickly apparent that the gardener had blown it in two with a charge from a shotgun! It was, naturally, a perfectly harmless Grass Snake.

Henry

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 17 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I understand the gamekeeper who looked after the woods we now own used to take an adder skin into the local school and solemnly warn the children about playing in our woods. We have had it 15 years and never seen an adder, although we have seen them in the FC woods about a mile away. We have slow worms and common lizards though. Nice pictures Buzzy, thanks.

Grass snakes bite more often than adders I believe, and if you are bitten, you need to take it seriously as the bite often becomes infected and a tetanus jab may also be required.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 17 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I suspect that if Grass Snakes bite people more frequently than do Adders it is because people think "it's only a Grass Snake." But you are quite right, their dental hygiene is not of the best. I was once sitting on a low wall at the edge of a pond and a Grass Snake gently slithered out of the vegetation and lay beside me in the sun. We both survived!

Henry

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 17 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

My first encounter was when I was a child. I had retired behind a bush and this grass snake arrived. We both shot off in opposite directions.

buzzy



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 17 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

No walk this week, because it was a bank holiday, and a lot of the places we visit tend to get filled up on holidays.

So here is a recent picture from one of my wildlife cameras:




a Muntjac (Muntiacus reevesi) doe, followed by the buck, wandering through the woodland.

Henry

Edited foe typo.

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 17 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

ace camera placement 10/10

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 17 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

They look almost like pigs in that picture with their noses in the undergrowth. Good picture.

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