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Rob R
Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: York
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 Posted: Sun Nov 01, 09 11:22 pm Post subject: |
 
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| RichardW wrote: |
| Often what is described as a "goaty" taste is the silage they have been fed on. Bought stuff nearly always taste of it. Home made does not (as you wont be feeding silage). |
Is that specific to the maize silage that commercial goats are fed on or grass silage? I never noticed any difference between hay or silage (grass), the only time it affected the milk was when they got things like too many leeks, onions or brassicas, but in that case it just tasted of the leeks, onions or, in the case of brassicas, flatulence. |
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milkmaid
Joined: 04 Jan 2007
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Location: western isles
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 09 7:29 am Post subject: |
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i tend to agree with pel ,i don't like goats cheese or shop brought goats milk ,i don't tend to pastuise my milk just cool it quickly and haven't noticed a taste ,as soon as i start holding temps to something or other the taste appears,although we do make custurd with it and cheese sauce it's done quickly doesn't seem to strong
although we had one goat that seemed to have this trait
genetically produce more lipase in their milk than others. High lipase milks are more prone to aquire taints, and to suffer from spontaneous rancidity
which my husband could taste even in coffee also agree with the other post about brassicas
mind you we don't feed silage just hay or haylage ,
we don't have a billy in the shed ,at the moment,he's gone somewhere else on a naughty holiday and when we have had one here we tend to keep him in another shed but were he could see the girls and with his own yard |
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bodger
Joined: 23 May 2006
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 09 8:36 am Post subject: |
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When we kept goats, the milk that we had from them tasted goaty. What we soon realised was that you really can't cool goats milk quickly enough. The sooner its cooled the better it tastes.
We bought some goats cheese in Brittany a few years back and it was the closest think to 'Billy Goat' cheese imaginable .  It was bdooly awful !
All milk production from whatever animal has got to be spot on, but with goats milk production, you have to be 110%.
There are certain houses that I refuse to have a brew at. They have their own goats and the tea with goats milk in it, tastes like shite.
Its amazing what people get used to and are willing accept and turn a blind eye to. Its the same phenomonon, with people who drink their own homebrew or wear the jumper that there OH has knitted for them. If it wasn't for the fact that it was their own home made stuff they wouldn't dream of consuming it or being seen dead in it.  |
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Rob R
Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: York
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 09 8:47 am Post subject: |
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Some people are more sensitive to tastes than others, and everyone's taste & smell senses are dulled the more used to something they get- just like pig farmers who stink to high heaven don't even notice it or ladies who wear enough perfume to sink a ship. |
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bodger
Joined: 23 May 2006
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We used to do the pig movement licences at Biddulph Police station.
Mondays is Chelford market day and the old boys would come in for the licences from Sunday afternoon onwards. Good grief, you could cut the air in the front office with a knife, but they were happy old souls and there's nothing quite like rubbing shoulders with your common man. You had to be careful not to actually touch them though. |
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milkmaid
Joined: 04 Jan 2007
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Location: western isles
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 09 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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i found that with cheese which i love but not goats cheese
the taste was not nice if you didn't like the strong taste of goat, so i thought i was doing something wrong ,i went and got a selection of goats cheeses ,from different places and no mine tasted the same concussion i don't like goats cheese ,i'm lucky though with daughter working at a dairy and they mess with milk very little apart from pasterising (it's illegal to sell unpasturised in scotland but not england)then i make cheese from their milk,and sometimes it's me that's bringing them in and milking them it's almost like having my own  |
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shadiya
Joined: 02 Feb 2008
Posts: 268
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Personally I can't stand the goat taste in goats milk, so much so that I'm going to buy a cow! I had an unfortunate experience with a rather splendid baked apple and custard, half way through I noticed goat and that was it.... 
Well, not really, but the dog got the rest, I was properly fed up I can tell you 
I plunge the milk in cold water but we haven't got a fridge so not sure we can really resolve this except by getting a cow, which is great because I love cows and now I have an excuse to buy another one!
Cows milk is easier to take the cream off too, which is important when you are off grid. I shall keep the goats though because they are great.  |
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Ixy
Joined: 15 Aug 2008
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Location: York
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| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 09 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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if you like cows that's great but sheeps milk is lovely - clean and delicate, not sheepy AT ALL. And make less demands on your resources than dairy cows do. You have more fat and protein too, meaning higher yields of cheese and you can make ice cream with whole milk rather than having to take the cream off. I'm going to try buttermaking with the whole milk too. |
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shadiya
Joined: 02 Feb 2008
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I do like cows!
I'm getting rid of the sheep.... It's no good trying to change my mind! |
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Ixy
Joined: 15 Aug 2008
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Location: York
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| shadiya wrote: |
I do like cows!
I'm getting rid of the sheep.... It's no good trying to change my mind! |
That's fiiiine....*backs away slowly* just sayin'... |
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shadiya
Joined: 02 Feb 2008
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Loraine
Joined: 16 Nov 2009
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Hi,
I've produced and sold, under licence, raw goats milk for 3 years. In my experience it's the pasteurisation process which seems to alter the taste of the milk which becomes exaggerated when making yoghurt, cheese etc.
I've stuck with retaining the milk raw and as low a temperature as the process will allow. best to use it straight from the goat at body temperature and ensure your hygiene is absolutely tip top. Majority of mass production goat products in supermarkets have been pasteurised so they will all have a goaty taint. |
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