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Mary-Jane



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 14523
Location: Ceredigion, West Wales
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 08 7:18 am    Post subject: What weapons do you use in the battle... Reply with quote    

...against the onslaught of slugs, snails and cabbage white butterflies on your lovingly raised seedlings?

I've just been planting all my brassicas out this weekend and I have to confess (forgive me all Organic Gods ) to using liberal amounts of slug pellets this year. Mind you, I went out at 6am today to find two plants already eaten. That worked then. Not.

So, what else can we all do in this dirty war? How about a controllled 'speriment of different types of prevention?

jocorless



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 4162
Location: Morecambe, Lancashire
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 08 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Organic Slug pellets, Collecting them, nemtodes, X shaped slug traps and the chickens - I have to say though that at the moment we do not seem to have as bad a problem as we have had in previous years - Although we have seen a huge increase in the Wild Bird population around us and I suspect that has had a large part to play in keeping the numbers down

Even my Hostas are relatively unscathed - usually they get munched straight away

Oh and I forgot to say - butterflies are going to be tackled today - I've got some of those build a ball things, some aluminium tubing and black netting - It didn't really work last year but I'm going to give it another go with a slightly more sophisticated approach

Mary-Jane



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 14523
Location: Ceredigion, West Wales
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 08 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

jocorless wrote:
Organic Slug pellets, Collecting them, nemtodes, X shaped slug traps and the chickens

...butterflies are going to be tackled today - I've got some of those build a ball things, some aluminium tubing and black netting


Yes, my slug pellets are organic too. Don't seem to be terribly effective so far though!

What are X-shaped slug traps...as opposed to ordinary round ones?

And the chickens are great for disposing of all the collected snails. It's a joy to watch the rugby matches over the juciest ones...

Tahir very kindly gave us some butterfly mesh last year which is very good - but we need to set it back up this year better than we did last time. I'd be interested to see some pics of your build a ball thingy when you've got it set up Jo.

Bebo



Joined: 21 May 2007
Posts: 5070
Location: East Sussex
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 08 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    



These. Keeps the butterflies and birds off. Doesn't stop slugs, but I either pick them off or use slug pellets without fear of poisoning any birds. Has the extra benefit of stopping the dog trampling stuff when she decides to have a funny five minutes and run round the paddock at full pelt.

Mary-Jane



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 14523
Location: Ceredigion, West Wales
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 08 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Hey - they look brilliant. Did you make them or buy them in like that? If so, where?

Bebo



Joined: 21 May 2007
Posts: 5070
Location: East Sussex
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 08 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

The OH made them. It's water pipe (inch and a half or similar), bits of old timber from the building work we had done and scaffold netting. Last year we just used the water pipe pushed into the ground with the netting draped over the top and pegged down, but it was a bit unstable and a faff having to keep unpegging the netting to weed etc. These ones are on a 2" x 2" wooden frame so can be lifted off and put to one side. Yesterday the OH came up with the bright idea of putting a loop of string along the top so that they can be pulled upright from one end.

With your system you could make them the exact width of the raised beds.

I managed to get a good deal on netting by ordering in bulk of t'internet. I can try to find the site again if you want.

Mary-Jane



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 14523
Location: Ceredigion, West Wales
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 08 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I'm terrifically impressed! Would you consider writing an article for Downsizer on how you made them? I'm sure people would love to know.

We used water pipe tubing on ours last year too...but yours seem a lot more stable than ours.

I'd love the link for the netting as well - thanks.

Bebo



Joined: 21 May 2007
Posts: 5070
Location: East Sussex
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 08 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

http://www.tildenet.co.uk/acatalog/Debris_Netting.html

It's the standard debris netting. If I'm around to take photos when the OH makes some more I can probably write something about it.

jocorless



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 4162
Location: Morecambe, Lancashire
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 08 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

The Slug X trap look's like this:



I find them very very effective even though they aren't particularly cheap, they are very robust and will last a long time - Mine caught hundreds of slugs last year - the biggest problem was having to keep emptying them because they soon fill up with the beasties

LynneA



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Posts: 2560
Location: London N21
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 08 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

The only places I've had slug & snail damage this year are ones that Russell can't reach.

Sheba sees to keeping the birds off.

JB



Joined: 08 Jun 2005
Posts: 5407
Location: Sitting in a corner gently beating my head against the wall
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 08 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Or for the overengineered approach ...

BBC

mark



Joined: 14 Jul 2005
Posts: 1484
Location: Derby
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 08 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

JB wrote:
Or for the overengineered approach ...

BBC


looks like it works on much the same principles as a thrush but not as pretty.

Treacodactyl



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 18569
Location: In the pond with the frogs
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 08 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I've just been collecting them up and either killing them, feeding them to the hens or putting the largest snails at the back of the garden. I either go out at dusk or place upturned pots all over the veg patch and collect the critters in the morning.

It's getting to that time of year when I suggest we all try eating the large garden snails, hopefully this year I might find a way of making them edible.

Jamanda



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Posts: 16550
Location: North Devon
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 08 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

JB wrote:
Or for the overengineered approach ...

BBC


Fantastic - it's like something out of Wallace and Grommit.

Soapnutter



Joined: 09 Sep 2007
Posts: 684
Location: Derbyshire, England
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 08 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I'm finding that a regular spray of soap nut solution is dealing with the slugs, and my brassicas are in a similar looking plant shelter that I got from Lidl this year.



*crossing fingers that it all works and I get to eat some of what I grow!*

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