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lowri



Joined: 18 Oct 2006
Posts: 1322
Location: ceredigion
PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 15 5:51 pm    Post subject: Apple Identification Reply with quote
    

Can't remember if I have ever asked this question, but when I lived in Carmarthen I had an old apple tree in the (tiny urban) back garden. It was/is very prolific, apples similar to Bramleys but the longer you kept them the yellower and sweeter they got. It produces a crop of apples every year.
The lady I sold the flat to still lives there, she is a great friend. The tree is still there too.
I took an example to an apple-identification day at Llanerchaeron, and had it identified as Chelmsford Wonder. This is a 19th century species.
I have seen it in old catalogues,
but does anyone know if it is available to the general public?

tahir



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45389
Location: Essex
PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 15 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

We have Chelmsford Wonder, I think keepers sell it, if not look up eeaop

yummersetter



Joined: 26 Jan 2008
Posts: 3241
Location: Somerset
PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 15 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

That sounds like an unusual tree to be planted in Carmarthen. I've never heard of it here in Somerset, but maybe someone was nostalgic for the tastes of their Essex childhood

VM



Joined: 23 Nov 2007
Posts: 1748
Location: Lincolnshire
PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 15 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I assume you mean a cooking apple if similar to Bramleys. My mum has a tree with a cooking apple which starts off green and then gets yellower and eventually sweet enough to eat fresh. It has a very nice flavour indeed when cooked for something like a crumble. I thought it might be one called Golden Noble, but my mum can't remember the name.

Chelmsford Wonder pictures show a green apple with red flecking.

There are so many apple varieties! My mum also sadly can't remember the name of the very nice eating apples from the other tree in her garden.Green/yellow turning to quite dark red, crisp and nice to eat now and long-keeping.

Mistress Rose



Joined: 21 Jul 2011
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 15 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Spartan goes quite deep red VM, could that be it?

yummersetter



Joined: 26 Jan 2008
Posts: 3241
Location: Somerset
PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 15 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

problem is, most cookers go from green to yellow as they mature. Looking at the late 1960s Scotts mailorder catalogue, apart from Bramley, they sold Peasgood Nonsuch, Howgate Wonder, Blenheim, Crawley Beauty, Lanes Prince Albert, Edward VII, AW Barnes and Newton Wonder, Annie Elizabeth and Monarch as recommended cookers. They had one of the largest ranges for sale so an old tree is more likely to be one of those ( unless the planter was a rare variety collector or a pip grower)

lowri



Joined: 18 Oct 2006
Posts: 1322
Location: ceredigion
PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 15 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

When I had it identified, it was suggested that there might be similar apple trees planted in gardens in the same street, but sadly I had moved away by then and apart from my friend who bought my flat I hardly know anyone there any more! It was a terrace not far from the barracks, possibly accommodation originally for soldiers' families, 19th century I believe.

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