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Northern_Lad



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 06 12:33 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

tahir wrote:
Right, this is (I think) the final version, the sea buckthorn is in cos it's an N fixer and the fruit is supposed to be great for jams, wines etc and has huge amounts of vitamins AND omega 3s.

Looks like attachemnets issn't wotrking for non images, will check.


Don't quite get the file (I cracked you post and found the file). Are you having 4 rows of planting to create the break?

tahir



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 06 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Yeah it's 4 rows, the first two will effectively become one at some stage. I've reposted the image.

Northern_Lad



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 06 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

tahir wrote:
Yeah it's 4 rows, the first two will effectively become one at some stage. I've reposted the image.


Could you not swap rows 2 and 3 around, so the big trees have a bit more room to grow, are are you after the front two rows growing together after only a few years?

tahir



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 06 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

The idea is to create a hard face to the windbreak, so its sort of triangular in profile. This apparently is the most effective shape.

Here's a revised version that makes a little more sense


cab



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 06 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Nice! I like that you're planting small leaved lime, its a gorgeous tree. Are you going to allow any of the trees in the hedge to grow into taller specimens, or is it all going to be kept snug?

Northern_Lad



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 06 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Row 1 on the outside and row 4 on the inside?

I'm thinking that you'll get more wind inside if you have high outside and low inside, as oposed to a 'ramp' facing the wind.

tahir



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 06 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

This is the windbreak so they'll all be allowed to grow as tall as they want, the only management will be removal of the pine @ year 15

Northern_Lad



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 06 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

cab wrote:
Are you going to allow any of the trees in the hedge to grow into taller specimens, or is it all going to be kept snug?


Hopefully he'll let them grow for a few years and then produce a spledidly illustrated article on hedge laying for us.

tahir



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 06 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Northern_Lad wrote:
Row 1 on the outside and row 4 on the inside?


Yup, apparently keeping the tall side on the windward is the most effective, so that's what we're doing.

tahir



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 06 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Northern_Lad wrote:
Hopefully he'll let them grow for a few years and then produce a spledidly illustrated article on hedge laying for us.


No, he won't, this a flipping windbreak, not a flipping hedge. There's a whole nuther thread on hedges which will be updated next.....

Northern_Lad



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 06 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

tahir wrote:
Northern_Lad wrote:
Row 1 on the outside and row 4 on the inside?


Yup, apparently keeping the tall side on the windward is the most effective, so that's what we're doing.


Odd. I'm betting that they've done their research but I'd have throught the other way. Maybe it reduces the wind speed more.

thinking about it, you get to look at the pretty side too with the height moving away from you.

tahir



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 06 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Northern_Lad wrote:
thinking about it, you get to look at the pretty side too with the height moving away from you.


It goes through the middle of a field that has a pretty high hedgerow bordering it, anyway both sides will look pretty good I think.

Andy B



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 06 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Hazel should be ok

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