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moonwind



Joined: 10 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 07 7:50 pm    Post subject: Mushroom help please  Reply with quote    

We have an area that has had layers and layers of bark chippings put on it to build up ground levels.

It has been laying as is for over a year now and this year what looks like mushrooms are appearing, as in the pics I took.

I wonder if anyone of the DS experts on mushrooms and fungi could tell me what is growing on the bark chippings and if they are edible or best left alone, I am afraid I have little knowledge of these things myself.

I can spot the ordinary field mushrooms that come up from time to time, and have prepared puffball mushrooms when in Northants area, but that is as far as it goes.

So any help much appreciated.

http://www.villagephotos.com/image.asp?id_=20794323

http://www.villagephotos.com/image.asp?id_=20794322

http://www.villagephotos.com/image.asp?id_=20794320


Thank you

MW

mochyn



Joined: 21 Dec 2004
Posts: 24581
Location: mid-Wales
PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 07 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Can't open those pics, Moonwind.

moonwind



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 07 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Darn Mochyn

I'll try and get the link to my village photo's page and maybe you could look from there direct.

I tried to do an image link to DS but that didn't work for me either.

moonwind



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 07 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Testing

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-10/1219294/HPIM2533.jpg

moonwind



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 07 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Is that better Mochyn? I have only done one to test it opens OK

toggle



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 07 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I can tell ti's a mushroom, that's about ti though, but your pic is definately working now

mimborin



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Location: near Southampton/ Winchester (Romsey)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 07 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Based on what looks like the dark brown gills, the ring on the stem and the colour...

Looks a bit like a sun dried agaric to me. Perhaps a horse mushroom. Although they all seem quite close together, maybe because it is growing with wood chippings?

As with a lot of photos on here, it is difficult to be sure, I could be way off, so please don't eat on my say. Probably not worth it anyway since they seem quite shrivelled from the sun, unless you want to dry them, in which case it is half done!

Edit:

Usual requirements...Have you got a spore print, if so what are the results...Have you got a picture of the cap...Does it stain, when bruised any colour (particularly yellow)...have you got a pic of its base...

bingo



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 07 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Doesn't look like Horse mushrooms, I don't know. Don't eat.

moonwind



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 07 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I wouldn't dream of chancing eating until someone who knows about these things could identify them.

There are loads of them coming up and then, as spotted they are in direct sunlight (a rarity but very welcome and long overdue), and dry off quickly.

Something is eating them I take it slugs, I cannot get right up to them at the moment as my arthritic knee has decided to play up!, but will try and take some more pictures tomorrow.

This one is how they emerge from the bark chippings:-


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-10/1219294/HPIM2532.jpg

This is a bit closer pic

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-10/1219294/HPIM2533.jpg

I have taken these pics from the yard below, hence me saying can't get nearer them hopefully will be able to when I've rested the bad knee.

Maybe these are toadstools? I really don't know

Last edited by moonwind on Tue Jul 31, 07 10:12 pm; edited 1 time in total

cab



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 07 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Piles of wood chips throw up all sorts of things. Doesn't look like one I'd eat though.

Get a spore print if you can, and a look at tops and bottoms of caps would help us, and we can take it from there I should think.

Definitely not an Agaricus.

bingo



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 07 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Arthritis is a bastard.

moonwind



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 07 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I'll try and get a spore print tomorrow.

I am intrigued now, maybe they are some rare thingey that will turn me into a millionaire ..haha .do they do one called pigwillfly?

PeteS



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 07 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Very Interesting. This looks like something that I have found growing (in great numbers) on woodchip near my house. It first appeared in late March and has been popping up ever since, although I think it's getting near the end of it's fruiting cycle. It caused me a great amount of head scratching but have a look at....

http://www.chezshaw.demon.co.uk/work/research/woodchips/woodchips.html

My money (and I am now 90% sure) is that it's Psilocybe percevalii. The picture in the above site isn't great but have a look at....

http://www.pilzepilze.de/galerie/v/Lateinisch/P/psilocybe/percevalii/

One of the features of this fungus (in mature examples) is that the stem in hollow from the mid section down. Can you cut the stems with a sharp knife? It's best to do this with a fungus that is not to old as they tend to close down when dry and old.

The webpage says that this fungus is scarce. Maybe we/I should contact the BMS, but I've never done this before and don't know if it's worth it etc.

PeteS



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Location: Hampshire
PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 07 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

PS - the young caps are slightly sticky. I would not eat it!

Last edited by PeteS on Wed Aug 01, 07 10:12 am; edited 1 time in total

mochyn



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Location: mid-Wales
PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 07 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Thanks, MW: I can see that. Don't know what they are, though!

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