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Hairyloon



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Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 15 8:53 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

Nick wrote:
As a direct result of needing photo ID to prove who you are at scrapyards, metal theft dropped by between 33% and 77%, virtually overnight.


I think they were originally going to require payment by direct bank transfer, which seems to me the best plan all round, so I don't know why they backed down from that: presumably under pressure from the federation of stolen metal dealers.

Do we know if the theft rate has stayed down?
How hard is it to forge the paperwork to the standard required by the typical metal yard?

Hairyloon



Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Posts: 14823
Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 15 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Nick wrote:
Gripe all you like, but that's less church roofs, railways lines, road signs and sub stations having to be paid for out of our pockets.

If I was a terrorist organisation, I would hit things like transport, communication, and power distribution. To test the security systems I would conduct a series of thefts of power cables, railway lines and the like... or rather, I would encourage the local criminals to do it for me.

I am not a terrorist, but I think anyone dealing in those things ought to be treated as one on that basis. They should also come down a lot heavier on the yards that deal in stolen metal and hit them hard with the Proceeds of Crime Act. Make an example of some of the worst offenders, close down their business and take away their house.
That would've brought the crime rate down pretty sharpish.

Instead of that, not only do they not prosecute the dealers, they won't even supply you the evidence so you can take them to court yourself.

Nick



Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 33694
Location: Hereford
PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 15 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Hairyloon wrote:
Nick wrote:
As a direct result of needing photo ID to prove who you are at scrapyards, metal theft dropped by between 33% and 77%, virtually overnight.


I think they were originally going to require payment by direct bank transfer, which seems to me the best plan all round, so I don't know why they backed down from that: presumably under pressure from the federation of stolen metal dealers.

Do we know if the theft rate has stayed down?
How hard is it to forge the paperwork to the standard required by the typical metal yard?



http://www.local.gov.uk/media-releases/-/journal_content/56/10180/7025789/NEWS

Cathryn



Joined: 16 Jul 2005
Posts: 19830
Location: Ceredigion
PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 15 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Pilsbury wrote:
Cathryn wrote:
Pilsbury wrote:
Cathryn wrote:
Hairyloon wrote:
Cathryn wrote:
There should be nothing normal about having everything in your husband's name.

Why not? It is certainly not unusual.
What about lodgers? I would expect all the bills to be in the landlord's name: what are they to do?


Or landlady? Or maybe both if they both own the property? That's a novel idea I wonder if it will ever catch on?
there is nothing unusual about all the bills and detsils being in one persons name.
My wife doesnt work, all the bills are paid frm my bank account, if the accounts wers in her name there are issues if i have to ring and quiery account detail.
The house is 100% in my name, her credit is shot to pieces so no credit cards or loans.
It suits the way we live.
Its down to the people how finances and accounts are arranged.


I would really like to answer this but I cannot find a way of doing so that would not risk offending a man whom I have much respect for.
its fine i wont be offended but icwas just pointing out that sometimes allcthe bills are in one partners name rather than split and its not becsuse i wont let her have control, she just doesnt want it where household bilms sre concerned.
All her accounts, bank, phone and amazon type stuff are online so sometimes she struggles for accepted proof of address stuff.
It wasnt plannex this way just as i doubt anyone else on downsizer deliberately controls another but sometimes it happens to work out thst way.


That's clearer! Starting your sentence with the statement that she doesn't work...hmm. You are saying that you are in an equal partnership but both do different bits of it.

I would not be happy not to have my name on the mortgage, which if you knew me is a bit pot calling kettle as I do not have straightforward financial affairs myself or any other straightforward affairs for that matter.

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 33023
Location: yes
PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 15 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Nick wrote:
Hairyloon wrote:
Nick wrote:
As a direct result of needing photo ID to prove who you are at scrapyards, metal theft dropped by between 33% and 77%, virtually overnight.


I think they were originally going to require payment by direct bank transfer, which seems to me the best plan all round, so I don't know why they backed down from that: presumably under pressure from the federation of stolen metal dealers.

Do we know if the theft rate has stayed down?
How hard is it to forge the paperwork to the standard required by the typical metal yard?



http://www.local.gov.uk/media-releases/-/journal_content/56/10180/7025789/NEWS


the trade in stolen stone is still thriving

buzzy



Joined: 04 Jan 2011
Posts: 3131
Location: In a small wood on the edge of the Huntingdonshire Wolds
PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 15 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

sean wrote:
One of my favourite bits of one of my favourite TV series. Don't seem to be able to embed youtube any more. Here's the linky https://youtu.be/0O40Radaizk


Wow - somebody else who has heard of/remembers/loves Northern Exposure. If I hadn't got the full DVD set I'd think I'd imagined it.

Henry

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