estimate 300mph, ht 10050 ft with the aloww simulating ground hugging, a couple of miles off long ways
2 AIM, 1 chunky missile( maybe a harm?), 2 500lb dumb bombs, all those are practice ordinance put on the racks to get used to flying a load and perhaps delivering it on the dry fire range up north
iirc they are tornados from the training group, they get better at it during a "class of" top gun sort of school over about 9 months
their last lessons involve "grown ups" playing "laser quest" with a hawk, tis funny to watch in a crocodile with wildebeests sort of way
sgt.colon
Joined: 27 Jul 2009 Posts: 7380 Location: Just south of north.
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 22 12:08 pm Post subject:
Thanks for that info DPack. They are great to watch. We get all sorts flying past the hotel, so when I'm up there and if I hear them coming I try and get a snap. Never got any of the jets yet, as they are there and gone before I've had time to snap them but here are a few photos of ones I have managed to take.
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Shane
Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 3467 Location: Doha. Is hot.
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 22 12:26 pm Post subject:
Look more like Typhoons than Tornados to me, dpack
i have no idea what AR system they use, the birds were hiding from the one i was trying to snap, the big birds made a lot of noise which helped locate, predict and track them for the snaps, 10000ft is very unhealthy if anyone has a "camera" on the ground
some snaps of grin working would have been better
gz
Joined: 23 Jan 2009 Posts: 8600 Location: Ayrshire, Scotland
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 22 8:46 am Post subject:
We have had a lot of military freight, and pairs of Chinook helicopters flying around here...the normal wildlife does go rather quiet with those noisy efforts around
We haven't had so many of late years, but once a helicopter nearly took the tops out of the trees at the bottom of the wood where we were working. They have been a bit more circumspect round here since one frightened a horse in the local country park and the rider was injured. The RAF denied it could have been flying that low until the part number taken from the underside was read out to them.
Went to a Royal Forestry Society meeting at the estate son did his work placement on years ago. Mainly concentrated on plantation, but the head forester rather likes less usual trees, so saw planted wild service and true service trees, the latter also known as Whitty pear. There are 4 pars of barn owls nesting on the estate of which 3 produced young this year.
it is very quiet outside
the sparrows have no need to be up early, they have very extended territories
no little birds "sing"
full wipe out of multiple species
i am very ******* far from ok
if this is as widespread across species, as i suspect from the local area extinctions, the avian ecosystem is very different in any places similar to here that had the extreme heat event
woodland etc might have had a different response to challenge, here it was a mass extinction event
gz
Joined: 23 Jan 2009 Posts: 8600 Location: Ayrshire, Scotland
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 22 7:46 am Post subject:
Our wee shouty bird has returned to the dawn chorus... although it isn't much of a chorus now.
Listened to Out of Doors on radio Scotland and heard it as their Mystery Bird..a Dunnock!
I am not sure if I heard one in the wood earlier in the year Gz. I couldn't definitely identify the song, but sounded the nearest.
Dpack, I think the birds will build up again. A lot died in the cold winter of 62/3, but built up again over the next few years. Now isn't a good time of year to hear birds anyway as they don't have to defend territories, and if there are fewer of them, they won't have to defend feeding territories.
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