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wellington womble

Getting an iPod to talk to Windoze.....

I have the most expensive bit of useless kit hanging around on my desk at the moment. It's taken me three months to get iTunes downloaded to my PC, and now I find that Windoze had been automatically protecting all the audio content I have loaded onto its hard drive, so that iTunes can't get at it, and put it on my iPod.

How on earth do I get all my protected WMA files off my hardrive and onto my (presently!) effectively worthless iPod? The CD's are in storage, which was why I specifically spent a lot of time putting them on my harddrive, and bought a portable media player!

I only want something to listen to while I do the housework! Rolling Eyes
Jonnyboy

Advanced tab, then consolidate library?
wellington womble

Nope - not sure what it did do, but apparently it's undoable! Oh well. Wonder what I did with the CDs.............
dougal

Possible terminology confusion: "protected WMA"

That is referring to *copy*protected (ie copy-prevented) music downloaded from somewhere other than the iTunes Store.
Not that you have digitised from your own CDs.

Ordinary (unencrypted) WMAs can be converted to AAC or mp3 by iTunes for iPod playback by the PC version of iTunes (not the Mac version).
Its Apple-easy:
Quote:
Adding songs already on your computer

If you have MP3, AAC, or unprotected WMA files on your computer or backed up on a CD, you can easily add them to your iTunes Library at any time. Simply go to the File menu, choose Add to Library, find the files you want to add, and then click the Choose button. The files you choose will be added to your library, and if any files are unprotected WMA files, they will automatically be converted to AAC files. On a Windows computer, you can add an entire folder of files: choose File > Add Folder to Library.
http://www.apple.com/ilife/tutorials/itunes/it1-1.html
wellington womble

Not quite so AppleEasy, I'm afraid. "iTunes is unable to convert the files, as they are protected WMA files". Dunno why. Won't convert to AAC or MP3 or anything else in the drop down box. It did say on the site that windows media player (which is what I used) does this, and you can copy from the orginal CD's, and turn it off the copy in future for Windows media player.

I was hoping if Windows Media Player put the protect thingy on, it can take it off again. I can't be the only person to want to load up a chunk of audio that's already on my harddrive, can I?
dougal

wellington womble wrote:
... I can't be the only person to want to load up a chunk of audio that's already on my harddrive, can I?

You're not.
I'm just mystified as to how/why you have unintentionally digitised them into an encrypted proprietary format.
Which I incorrectly believed that you couldn't have done!
It seems a pretty bizarre option to have as the default.
But then, I think there's a lot of such bizarre stuff in Windoze. /shrug

Sorry, I can't get you out of that one!




... but these folk *do* claim they can.
http://www.e-soft.co.uk/MediaAudioCapture.htm
Its PC software, and said by users to do what it claims.
Seems to cost £12 or so.
I'm not advocating it; I've no idea what snags may lurk; or how pox-raddled it might be.
But it might be worth your while to check out its reputation.
wellington womble

dougal wrote:
It seems a pretty bizarre option to have as the default.
But then, I think there's a lot of such bizarre stuff in Windoze. /shrug


Isn't there just! Why on earth would it decide to encrypt things? I hate it when computers do things on their own. They're supposed to do as their told!

I'll have a look at the software, though - thanks!
tahir

I used to use software called Xplay for my iPod but that was years ago, before they had a version of iTunes for Windows. Very good, stable application.
bagpuss

can you burn them to cd then get itunes to reconvert to a suitable format, not ideal as is a bit lossy but might work
sean

You could do the back-conversion using 'lossless' which would help a bit with that.
dougal

tahir wrote:
I used to use software called Xplay for my iPod but that was years ago, before they had a version of iTunes for Windows. Very good, stable application.
But unfortunately, it doesn't seem to want anything to do with the *protected* WMA files that Windoze seems to have chosen to create from the original CDs...

bagpuss wrote:
can you burn them to cd then get itunes to reconvert to a suitable format, not ideal as is a bit lossy but might work

Yes, and that approach can be taken one step further by using a 'virtual' CDRW http://www.noteburner.com/
wellington womble

If they're on a CD, won't they still be in the same format? I assume even if I copy them again, I'll need to find a little box to uncheck (the one which says 'would you like to save as protected WMA content?') anyone know where that might be?
dougal

wellington womble wrote:
If they're on a CD, won't they still be in the same format? ...

The idea is that you save them as an *audio* cd - such as you might play on an aging hifi - rather than simply copying the computer data files onto a data disc.
I think you'll find that Noteburner will end up with mp3's for you, if you choose to go that route.


If you play them out to a real cdrw, I'd suggest that you use iTunes to redigitise the music.
Especially use iTunes if you were to choose to redigitise from the original CDs.
For less risk of this sort of rot.
wellington womble

I think I might get a mac.........
Gervase

Apropos not a lot, I've just burned an MP3 CD for youngest using iTunes. Eleven hours of music is quite a lot - but I think he might have something to chew on with Tangerine Dream, Gong, Paul Robeson, the Red Army Choir, Les Negresss Verts, and lots of Lou Reed and Tom Waits.
I will not let his taste be pigeonholed!
sean

No Tinariwen, Neil Young or Davy Graham? Man, you're putting him in a box already. Wink
Jonnyboy

Creedence clearwater, faith no more... the list is endless. Thank the lord for 79p tracks
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