Killing Bindweed Thread?

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astra	Killing Bindweed Thread? Please can anyone remember what the thread was called?There was a lot of info about putting dilute weedkiller in a tin, burying it in the soil to stop it tipping over and poking the long stems of bindweed into it. But I can't remember what was used or the dilution
wildfoodie	its in the 'how can you tell' thread.
Treacodactyl	This one: http://forum.downsizer.net/viewtopic.php?t=71468&highlight=bindweed
wellington womble	Very timely. I was having a moan about this at the weekend. I'll try it.
astra	Thankyou Let battle commence!
wildfoodie	I've been unwinding some bindweed from 2 borders and around the spuds. the bindweed is way too bulky for milk bottles. And I'm a bit nervous about putting weedkiller near the spuds, how do people intend to 'cover the jars with plastic and tape down?' I was thinking about using some 3 litre buckets ( we have a supply from the shop ) with a stick inserted into the ball of bindweed then covering with a supermarket plastic bag so that rain won't pool on top of the buckets and potentially dilute the weedkiller. I'm the sort of person who normally learns by mistakes - and I don't want to risk spilling the buckets....
NorthernMonkeyGirl	I'm trying this. I slashed down the long grass to allow bindweed to grow (up canes as suggested elsewhere). Where the shoots were long enough I wrapped and shoved into 1 pint plastic milk bottles. The dilution I did according to the instructions for spraying, then down a bit. I think with the concentration I have, I used 20ml per pint, which allowed some volume for the shoots. I have stuffed some rag in the top, I would prefer some kind of proper lid but wasn't sure how to do this without damaging the stems? I have piled soil/stones around the bottles, but if I were using any more liquid I'd be more worried about knocking them
Vanessa	Do report back periodically! I'm going to attempt similar, but not until my chooks are fenced into their new area (for obvious reasons, I don't think this is a good thing to try with free-ranging chooks!)
astra	I've got tins covered with plastic and secured with laccy bands. I think NMG's litre bottle is a great idea cos it won't need topping up so often
NorthernMonkeyGirl	Update - it looks a bit poorly. Other shoots are going bonkers but I'm out of containers eeeek
wellington womble	Oh, I thought you wre supposed to put roots in containers. Or have I got it wrong? The stuffs invincible, and turning up in all sorts of other cornes where I've never seen it before. I'm blaming a lack of nettles
Vanessa	No, it's the shoots. The idea being that they "drink in" more of the poison, thus killing roots deeper in the ground. Any roots dug up need to be either bagged-and-binned or burnt.
wellington womble	An, well that should be easier. I think I must have thought that it's the roots that do the drinking, so you they need to be the ones in the bath. I usually dig them up and up them in the chimenea to dry out. Our barbeque entertainment is watching them burn! Ha ha ha.
astra	It's definitely working. Plants beginning to look quite sick Northern Monkey girl: How did yours get on in the rain? I wondered if the rag in the top might act like a wick and soak up the stuff and send it out the wrong way. Was it ok? If so I think it's a much better way than faffing about with plastic coverings!
NorthernMonkeyGirl	So far so good with the rag I've added more bottles, but the blooming stuff is sprouting everywhere
astra	Excellent. Will use rag then! I've got loads of it too. So far I'm only using it in the fenced off veg patch cos of the grandkids but could do with it in my borders as well! Always think that there must be a use for the wretched stuff that no-one has thought of yet!
NorthernMonkeyGirl	I'm wondering whether to spray off the short growth - where the land has been dug so I've got lots of shoots from individual root sections? And leave the bottles for the "long term" stuff? If I hadn't planted things in the area I'd be tempted to napalm the entire patch...
wellington womble	Done that twice. If cockroaches survive the nuclear holocaust, it's bindweed they'll be eating. Blasted stuff.
NorthernMonkeyGirl	Do chickens eat (non-glyphosated) bindweed? Or would the scratching spread the root fragments?
Vanessa	Mine ignore it totally. They will eat bindweed root - but I fear that it might go straight through them and come out with extra fertilizer!!
NorthernMonkeyGirl	Awwwwwwww dammit...
Vanessa	Yeah, not fair, is it?!!
NorthernMonkeyGirl	I thought I'd been all clever and stuff... What about rabbits? Nice, cute, fluffy, tasty rabbits?
Vanessa	Don't know, I haven't got any rabbits ...
NorthernMonkeyGirl	Been out there again today, the bindweed in the bottles is yellowing nicely, but I've too many shoots of "unrelated" bindweed carpeting the area. I am seriously considering taking cuttings of the rose that's there, perhaps salvaging the raspberries (though I daren't move any segments of bindweed on a rootball) and spraying the whole area DEAD. And hoping the willow and new hazel can survive I don't want to be so drastic, but I cannot afford for it to spread.
Vanessa	Well, I've just read the bottle on some French weedkiller I have that's specifically for bindweed - and its active ingredient is something different - dimethylamine salt. I went and zapped a lot of the bindweed with it a couple of days ago ... and it's already looking rather droopy. There's nothing worth saving where I've zapped ... so I can re-zap in a few weeks if it comes back, and re-zap and re-zap until it's all gone! evil laugh I'll report back on its effectiveness - not that I can bring a lorry-load of it back for everyone else, mind!
NorthernMonkeyGirl	Well, I've just read the bottle on some French weedkiller I have that's specifically for bindweed - and its active ingredient is something different - dimethylamine salt. I went and zapped a lot of the bindweed with it a couple of days ago ... and it's already looking rather droopy. There's nothing worth saving where I've zapped ... so I can re-zap in a few weeks if it comes back, and re-zap and re-zap until it's all gone! evil laugh I'll report back on its effectiveness - not that I can bring a lorry-load of it back for everyone else, mind!

My parents go to France a lot. Their normal haul is wine, coffee, and fish soup so I'm sure weedkiller might be possible...!

Please do keep updated. The other weed in the area is some kind of willowherb, I dug up one clump of rhizomes about 2 feet in diameter...

Vanessa

I've also got one that's for brambles, thistles and nettles which has Ester 1-Methylheptyl and Ester of Butyl Glycol in it.

The brambles one is called "Debroussaillant ronce, chardon, ortie GarlonGS" and the bindweed one is "Liseron, Pissenlit, Chardon"

Both are made by KB, and are available in SuperU supermarkets amongst other places.

Will report back on the bindweed one - but the bramble one is pretty good!

Cathryn

Been out there again today, the bindweed in the bottles is yellowing nicely, but I've too many shoots of "unrelated" bindweed carpeting the area. I am seriously considering taking cuttings of the rose that's there, perhaps salvaging the raspberries (though I daren't move any segments of bindweed on a rootball) and spraying the whole area DEAD. And hoping the willow and new hazel can survive Neutral

I don't want to be so drastic, but I cannot afford for it to spread. Crying or Very sad

It comes back even then. Sorry. NorthernMonkeyGirl

As my adventures in Soap-land continue, it occured to me.... what would caustic soda do? Twisted Evil

Edit - was at shop earlier, Gardener's World had bindweed on the front cover. Quick flick through - they said cut/pull, mulch (weed sheeting), glyphosate, and rhizome barriers to stop it spreading. I suppose I could try and contain it.... ugh. Vanessa

I think, as with all pernicious weeds, it's a case of keeping on and on and on at it. I haven't had the time to do so so far since moving into this house, and it shows!! Rolling Eyes

astra

I don't want to be so drastic, but I cannot afford for it to spread. Crying or Very sad

Smothering it in something dense is a good idea but looks messy for ages!We killed off quite a large area with old carpet and vinyl floor covering when we moved here. We've got willow herb and winter heliotrope as well. B*stard weeds! Mad

astra

The bindweed kill trick really works!!! Laughing

The bindweed in my three trial pots seems dead right back to the roots! I suppose it might come back but it ain't going to be feeling too good Laughing

Only another thousand or so plants to go!!! NorthernMonkeyGirl

I resorted to taking rose cuttings (4, so one should take!) and transplanting the raspberries, and watering the whole area with glyphosate Sad

and now it's raining Crying or Very sad

I just have too many segments to bottle them all. But the bottled ones are still dying!

Decided to make that area my annuals patch, so it'll be under heavy cultivation... astra

If you didn't have too much planted in the area it makes sense to do the lot. Hope the rain didn't diluted it too much.
I can keep it under control in veg patch but it was all round the blackcurrants and impossible to shift....until now....hehehe Twisted Evil

Vanessa

Well ... the French stuff has certainly killed-off what I've sprayed ... time will tell if it re-grows, will report back. NorthernMonkeyGirl

I have dug for 4 hours, with a spade, fork, and hand fork. The wheelie bin is 2/3 full of bindweed roots.

And I have only done a couple of square metres Mad

Any update on the French stuff? Smile

Vanessa

So far, so good ... everything that's been sprayed is NOT re-shooting so far ...

So far Laughing

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