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Flamin'Panda



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 14 8:20 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

It might not change the world, but it might just make a few dark corners a little brighter.

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 14 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

The principle of gravity usage has been applied for many years. My grandfather had a clock that used the same principle to keep the clock wound for a week, probably late 19th/early 20th century.

Nick



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Location: Hereford
PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 14 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

That provided sod all light, too.

Hairyloon



Joined: 20 Nov 2008
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Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 14 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Nick wrote:
That provided sod all light, too.

Yeah, but it provided sod all light for a whole week...

Flamin'Panda



Joined: 09 Feb 2014
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 14 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Now you're all being sooooo silly. So, I wont bore you with a list of all the awards it has won, blah blah blah,'cos you'll only lambaste me for breathing on the same planet as the rest of you... grrrr (That's Panda talk by the way)

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 14 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Ook.

RichardW



Joined: 24 Aug 2006
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Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales
PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 14 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Crap products get awards all the time.

Flamin'Panda



Joined: 09 Feb 2014
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Location: Azores
PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 14 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

RichardW wrote:
Crap products get awards all the time.


I still don't see why you think this about this product. The brilliance is how they have managed to get the price to what it is.

RichardW



Joined: 24 Aug 2006
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Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales
PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 14 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Price is not everything.

It needs to be good value.

Not just in cash terms but in the use of resources.

I forecast that most of those that do eventually get made will not be in use 12 months later.

a, because its price was to low so too many corners were cut & they fail

b, it fails to do what is claimed

It can only produce 0.1 watt even if some one was there 24/7 re arming it it will still only produce 2.4Wh in a 24 hour period. A human can produce about 100 watts for short periods via a cycle & would only have to pedal for 90 seconds to make the same amount of energy. I bet thats less time that it takes to re arm the gravity light 48 times.


PS you should look at just what can be made for a pittance now days. Things that get sold in shops for say 50 actually cost less than a few pounds to make. Most of the money charged is profit for each leg of its journey to the shop.

Flamin'Panda



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 14 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

RichardW wrote:
Price is not everything.

It needs to be good value.

Not just in cash terms but in the use of resources.

I forecast that most of those that do eventually get made will not be in use 12 months later.

a, because its price was to low so too many corners were cut & they fail

b, it fails to do what is claimed

It can only produce 0.1 watt even if some one was there 24/7 re arming it it will still only produce 2.4Wh in a 24 hour period. A human can produce about 100 watts for short periods via a cycle & would only have to pedal for 90 seconds to make the same amount of energy. I bet thats less time that it takes to re arm the gravity light 48 times.


PS you should look at just what can be made for a pittance now days. Things that get sold in shops for say 50 actually cost less than a few pounds to make. Most of the money charged is profit for each leg of its journey to the shop.


How will we know what the outcome will be, unless it is used and tested in the context/arena that it is intended for. And I think that we all understand the basics of manufacturing/profit...


onemanband



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 14 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

RichardW wrote:
Ok look at it this way.

We have known about this for 2 years. I would guess that they have been working on it now for about double that.


And in 2 years this has reached nearly a million homes.

How many gravity lights are in use ?

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 14 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Also this.

RichardW



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 14 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Both are brilliant.

Flamin'Panda



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 14 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

onemanband wrote:
RichardW wrote:
Ok look at it this way.

We have known about this for 2 years. I would guess that they have been working on it now for about double that.


And in 2 years this has reached nearly a million homes.

How many gravity lights are in use ?


Unlike some people, who I believe are either jealous or have some kind of commercial interest in slamming the gravity light, I think that what you have posted here is also an excellent idea. Their business model is fantastic - and the product works. Anything that helps rid the world of kerosene lamps is certainly a step in the right direction.

RichardW



Joined: 24 Aug 2006
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Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales
PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 14 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Flamin'Panda wrote:


Unlike some people, who I believe are either jealous or have some kind of commercial interest in slamming the gravity light,



As that is obviously aimed at me I will reply.

I have no commercial interest is any form of light gravity or other wise powered.

Why would I be jealous of a product that is rubbish?

My main gripe is that they spent two years looking for money to support this when anyone with a calculator can plainly see that unless they up the weight (to more than a person can lift), the height (limited by the room height) & its strength (limited by cost) then it wont provide anything like the amount of light needed let alone be a source of power to recharge items like they claim.

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