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black grass =herbicide or 10000 +yrs of good sense
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Cathryn



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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 15 8:36 pm    Post subject: Re: black grass =herbicide or 10000 +yrs of good sense Reply with quote
    

dpack wrote:


it seems the idea of crop rotation has escaped the chems and repeat farmers .



Many things escape Countryfile.

dpack



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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 15 9:01 pm    Post subject: Re: black grass =herbicide or 10000 +yrs of good sense Reply with quote
    

Cathryn wrote:
dpack wrote:


it seems the idea of crop rotation has escaped the chems and repeat farmers .



Many things escape Countryfile.


yep but it reflects the problems of industrially educated/owned agri folk a fair bit of the time without mentioning obvious potential solutions .

dpack



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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 15 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Nick wrote:
Cute pigs, tho.


i was thinking yum through the entire pig item

Rob R



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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 15 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Cows aren't trendy enough at the moment for sensible ideas.

dpack



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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 15 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

it would have made sense to graze it rather than go for the" agent orange" option which has created the problem but to repeat the mistake and hope for better herbicide results next time does seem a bit futile.

Rob R



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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 15 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

There just isn't the supply of suitable animals though - they have enough trouble mustering the troops to graze the grasslands.

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 15 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

It looks sensible to us as I belive even ploughing will reduce the problem, but when you look at it from the farmers point of view he has to make major changes. I assume they don't plough because the soil will blow away if it is left without something in it; always a problem with vast fields, but I would think a fallow year would help a lot if it was cut or grazed. Of course pigs would be the ultimate removal method, but they would have to be rotated round fields or farms, and you would need an awful lot of them and electric fencing for fields that big. I think it should have been mentioned on the programme though, although that would have made the farmer look rather silly, which they didn't want to do.

Piggyphile



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 15 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

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plough, roots ,use tops for fodder


Out here they feed the animals on turnips and the humans eat the tops in soups and stews, they are called grelos. They are a bit bitter but I like them.

Lorrainelovesplants



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 15 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Is it just me or has Countryfile dumbed right down?
Countryside and farming for townies who aint got a clue?
I dont think there is anything that real farmers actually get from this (apart from the weather).

Lorrainelovesplants



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 15 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Is it just me or has Countryfile dumbed right down?
Countryside and farming for townies who aint got a clue?
I dont think there is anything that real farmers actually get from this (apart from the weather).

Nick



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 15 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I don't think it's dumbed down. It may have changed its focus. Did 'real' farmers ever look to it to get anything from it?

Rob R



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 15 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Nick wrote:
I don't think it's dumbed down. It may have changed its focus. Did 'real' farmers ever look to it to get anything from it?


No, but it is a vital service, giving us something to complain about. For real agricultural education we have the Archers.

dpack



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 15 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Piggyphile wrote:
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plough, roots ,use tops for fodder


Out here they feed the animals on turnips and the humans eat the tops in soups and stews, they are called grelos. They are a bit bitter but I like them.


i will dine with the pigs please

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 15 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I don't think it is as in depth as it used to be, and the black grass report was awful as it didn't really explore the options properly. I tend to watch it for the weather, which is really useful.

Rob R



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 15 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I don't get the point of "Adam's Farm" - why don't they feature all the other presenters hobbies? Oh yes, because it's incredibly tedious.

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