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dpack
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| Shan wrote: |
Pleased I didn't try to eat them. Looks like they are a protected species! Trouble is, my first thought about most things tends to be whether it is edible or not!  |
ummm me too .there are quite a few things that are now protected species that are (were) delicious.
something that strikes me about "protection"is that if folk find a critter delicious they might make the effort to protect it's habitat and harvest them sustainable ,much like the wildfowlers,lobster fishermen and scallop divers do. |
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Shan
Joined: 13 Jan 2009
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Agreed. It would be profitable for both the individual and the environment! |
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Mistress Rose
Joined: 21 Jul 2011
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There is also some sort of bivalve from which the Phoenicians obtained a 'purple' dye. Don't know much about it, but that was so precious that it was mainly used for kings and religious ceremonies.
Interesting article. |
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Jam Lady
Joined: 28 Dec 2006
Posts: 1881
Location: New Jersey, USA
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I thought that was a whelk, used to make Tyrian purple to dye the emperor's toga. |
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dpack
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| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 15 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Nick
Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Location: Hereford
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| Shan wrote: |
| Agreed. It would be profitable for both the individual and the environment! |
Hasn't worked for sturgeon, or whales, cod, tiger, rhino or any other species I can think of. |
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dpack
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| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 15 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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north sea cod are back on the sustainable list iirc and the ones we were eating in northumberland were huge.
tiger and rhino are a "cash crop" for poor folk to sell bits of to rich folk rather than dinner for the locals(as were whales during the industrial harvest).
im not sure what the sturgeon position is at the mo ,fairly dire i expect. |
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Nick
Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Cod are safe to fish again but despite their tastiness and value and desirability, not because of it.
Tigers and rhino survive because men with guns guard them not because eating their dicks makes yours better.
Sturgeon have a tough life due to living close to Russians and Iranians.
If you're tasty, or contain Mycoxaphloppin analogues, you're an endangered species.
A better counter argument is probably cows and sheep. |
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sean
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If people had decided to farm tigers 'One Man & His Dog' would have been a lot more exciting. |
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dpack
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| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 15 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| sean wrote: |
| If people had decided to farm tigers 'One Man & His Dog' would have been a lot more exciting. |
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Shan
Joined: 13 Jan 2009
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Location: South Wales
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| Nick wrote: |
| Shan wrote: |
| Agreed. It would be profitable for both the individual and the environment! |
Hasn't worked for sturgeon, or whales, cod, tiger, rhino or any other species I can think of. |
What about Safari Parks? They would not exist if they could not show the punters various wild animals. |
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crofter
Joined: 11 Feb 2007
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Predatory seals are constraining the recovery of cod stocks in Scottish West coast waters, research led at the University of Strathclyde suggests.
Losses of cod, through fishing and natural causes, have remained high for many years and have caused long-term decline in the stock – in some years, fishing removed around 50% of the total weight of the stock. The study found that, although fishing has now halved, predation by seals has rapidly increased to compensate, eating up more than 40% of the total stock. |
If people started eating seal meat it could be a solution? |
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crofter
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Planners have given the go-ahead to a giant fish farm at Chelston scheduled to produce over £20m of caviar a year.
Russian entrepreneur Igor Stopnikov is behind a plan to build a 100,000 sq foot facility that will produce caviar in Wellington worth up to £22m a year at retail prices, making it by far the town’s biggest business. |
When they run out of sturgeon in the rivers of Russia they can always import from Somerset. |
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Treacodactyl
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Planners have given the go-ahead to a giant fish farm at Chelston scheduled to produce over £20m of caviar a year.
Russian entrepreneur Igor Stopnikov is behind a plan to build a 100,000 sq foot facility that will produce caviar in Wellington worth up to £22m a year at retail prices, making it by far the town’s biggest business. |
When they run out of sturgeon in the rivers of Russia they can always import from Somerset. |
Makes you wonder how much it would be worth if they sold it in jars rather than boots.
I've always wanted to keep a few sturgeon (the fish that is), rather fun as far as fish go. |
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dpack
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"milking"a fish the size of a large moo is a task i dont want on my list of chores |
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