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mousjoos



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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 16 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

tahir wrote:
Just look at the way the drawer sits

You live, and sometimes you learn


For drawer sides whether dovetailed or not, try to use "drawer side ply"...it's not generally called that outside the trade, but is uni directional ply which means edges can be sanded without the need to veneer them first

Drawer sides should be at least a couple of millimetres wider than the front to allow fitting, making sure that all the top edges are flush...DSP also planes well making fitting easy

tahir



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Essex
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 16 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

mousjoos wrote:
Drawer sides should be at least a couple of millimetres wider than the front to allow fitting, making sure that all the top edges are flush...DSP also planes well making fitting easy


Sorry, not quite with you there, I know it's going to be difficult to explain on t'internet but is tehre a diagram or something you could point me at? Would love to be better at drawers

dpack



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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 16 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

re the ply vs mdf thing.

although sheet mdf is fairly stable if dry and stored flat good ply is better .

with either sealing any cut edges before construction ,pilot holes etc during and then sealing inside and out after will increase long term stability.

any large sheets will be more stable if braced.have a look in well made antique furniture etc for tried and tested bracing techniques.

meeting odin in a wardrobe is likely to be rather too exciting when choosing what to wear

tahir



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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 16 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

tahir wrote:
mousjoos wrote:
Drawer sides should be at least a couple of millimetres wider than the front to allow fitting, making sure that all the top edges are flush...DSP also planes well making fitting easy


Sorry, not quite with you there, I know it's going to be difficult to explain on t'internet but is tehre a diagram or something you could point me at? Would love to be better at drawers


Are saying I should oversize drawer fronts for inset drawers, and plain to fit?

mousjoos



Joined: 05 Jun 2006
Posts: 1986
Location: VERY Sunny SW France
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 16 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

tahir wrote:
tahir wrote:
mousjoos wrote:
Drawer sides should be at least a couple of millimetres wider than the front to allow fitting, making sure that all the top edges are flush...DSP also planes well making fitting easy


Sorry, not quite with you there, I know it's going to be difficult to explain on t'internet but is tehre a diagram or something you could point me at? Would love to be better at drawers


Are saying I should oversize drawer fronts for inset drawers, and plain to fit?

If a drawer (front) sits within a frame, the sides should be 2-3 mm wider than the front, or at least that much lower if the sides & front have been machined to the same width...the easiest way to visualise it is to always think of the finished drawer, & not as pieces ie sides, front etc....I know this sounds complicated but trying to put it simply, to fit the drawer correctly & more easily, you need a bit more on the bottom of the sides than on the bottom of the front....

mousjoos



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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 16 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

tahir wrote:
mousjoos wrote:
Drawer sides should be at least a couple of millimetres wider than the front to allow fitting, making sure that all the top edges are flush...DSP also planes well making fitting easy


Sorry, not quite with you there, I know it's going to be difficult to explain on t'internet but is tehre a diagram or something you could point me at? Would love to be better at drawers


Drawers are very simple

Conventional drawers rely on components being flat; edges being parallel; ends being square....

meet these criteria & not much can go wrong

careful assembly makes a big difference ie careful & precise & not over zealous cramping; & no excess glue !

If ever you venture into dovetailing by hand or machine, golden rule is that dovetails only go together once

tahir



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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 16 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Dovetails?

tahir



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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 16 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

mousjoos wrote:
Drawers are very simple


I believe I'm simpler

mousjoos



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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 16 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

tahir wrote:
mousjoos wrote:
Drawers are very simple


I believe I'm simpler


They're basically boxes

Dovetails....google it & see what you think

They are not obligatory in the construction of drawers

tahir



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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 16 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

This is the laundry room, with copper pipe handles.


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dpack



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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 16 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

i like the detergent cupboard ,very user friendly .

sean
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 16 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

He's using Fairy tabs though. Capitalist running dog of the imperialist Procter and Gamble hegemony that he is.

The cupboards look nice mind.

tahir



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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 16 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

That's Mrs capitalist running dog, I don't touch no laundry

Nick



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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 16 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Slave master, too.

Good man.

tahir



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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 16 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Child labour, slave labour, all is good.....

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