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tahir



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Essex
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 16 1:16 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

Chez wrote:
I draw the line at making my own lye. There's downsizing and then there's downsizing. But I take comfort it knowing that post-apocalypse I'll be able to


I take comfort in knowing that I'll still be able to source soap post apocalypse. Now who's going to make the washing up liquid?

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 33026
Location: yes
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 16 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

sulphonation chemistry is part of my skill set , you drain the sump and car battery i will get the fire wood and cast iron pot

that one needs eye protection as well

Nick



Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 33695
Location: Hereford
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 16 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

If we have an apocalypse, I'm stopping washing.

dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 16 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

not even with horsechestnut leaf tea?

Ty Gwyn



Joined: 22 Sep 2010
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Location: Lampeter
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 16 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

tahir wrote:
Chez wrote:
I draw the line at making my own lye. There's downsizing and then there's downsizing. But I take comfort it knowing that post-apocalypse I'll be able to


I take comfort in knowing that I'll still be able to source soap post apocalypse. Now who's going to make the washing up liquid?


The Fairy of course,lol.

Chez



Joined: 13 Aug 2006
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Location: The Hive of the Uberbee, Quantock Hills, Somerset
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 16 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Nick wrote:
If we have an apocalypse, I'm stopping washing.


Unwise. Post-apocalyptic chafing would be really bad.

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 16 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Chez wrote:
Nick wrote:
If we have an apocalypse, I'm stopping washing.


Unwise. Post-apocalyptic chafing would be really bad.


and the infections can be a bit nasty if the nearest surviving medic has no supplies and a training in using modern medicines .

the ability to make soap is a good skill.

strong lye is fairly easy but so is caustic soda if you have a good salt supply, heat and DC electricity.

Nick



Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 33695
Location: Hereford
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 16 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I'm not intending on hanging round long enough for that to be an issue.

Mistress Rose



Joined: 21 Jul 2011
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 16 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Lye isn't so bad as it is not as concentrated as commercial sodium hydroxide. But to make hard soap you then need salt. Of course if you make soft soap you can use it for washing up liquid.

Finding soap in the supermarket these days is becoming increasingly difficult. There are all sorts of shower gel, hand cleaning gels etc. but soap is not so easy, and usually low down where you don't notice it.

gregotyn



Joined: 24 Jun 2010
Posts: 1445
Location: Llanfyllin area
PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 16 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

It would appear that the horse chestnut tree leave are under threat from some grub, so its soap may become obsolete, dpack. And so conkers may become an obsolete 'game', read it somewhere-Daily Mail I think!

dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 16 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

gregotyn wrote:
It would appear that the horse chestnut tree leave are under threat from some grub, so its soap may become obsolete, dpack. And so conkers may become an obsolete 'game', read it somewhere-Daily Mail I think!


by observation about a quarter of horse chestnuts are resistant to the red death disease i dont know about any insect threat as yet.

Nick



Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 33695
Location: Hereford
PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 16 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

http://www.conkertreescience.org.uk/threats

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 16 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

ta ,we have all three round here the moth is quite well known and affects about 30% of those who survived the red death,so far it does not seem fatal and some seem to only get them for a couple of years and are then clear.

as mentioned the blotch thing seems fairly benign.

Mistress Rose



Joined: 21 Jul 2011
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 16 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

We have had the leaf miner here for some years, but am not aware of bleeding canker yet thank goodness.

gregotyn



Joined: 24 Jun 2010
Posts: 1445
Location: Llanfyllin area
PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 16 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I was starting to worry that conkers would be a thing of my distant youth, and that my young friends' children would not be keen on helping me when I hit the "I am still young" phase in life to fulfil the playing of the game again. The 5 yo is likely to enjoy beating me as he is already a tough nut, (slight pun in tended).

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