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dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 14 10:15 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

det cord ,three strands twisted into a rope should empty a smallish ditch and trim any low branches:lol:

Mutton



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 14 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

We are not going down the mechanical digger/tree trimming route.

We were hoping for an answer along the lines of "ooh I've used the super-duper (TM) silt sucker and its great." Or "I made a xxx I can sell you one" etc

I've been looking on line (from before posting this question) and so far all tools seem to be split between pond vacuum cleaners - which would do what we want but would have to be emptied every other minute - and whacking great hydraulic/diesel things for use on building sites.

Once we have the plants out and are back on to keeping the silt levels down, anyone got any suggestions for a mechanical way, ideally pumping, for removing silt? Has someone used a pond vacuum cleaner in such a way that it is not a bucket at a time but got some sort of continuous output?
We just want a way of moving the silt from the bottom of the run, to the top of the bank next to it, that doesn't involve us and a spade each.

Rob R



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 14 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Something such as this?

Mutton



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 14 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

That looks promising, thanks Rob. Could use it to clean the yard too. Stuff sweeping.

Mutton



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 14 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Further to previous - Rob, do you have a BigBrute or other farmyard/industrial vac of your own?

Rob R



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 14 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

No, bur I used one in a previous job & it was very effective for hoovering the farm yard.

onemanband



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 14 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Have you tried searching under 'suction excavators' or 'vacuum excavators' ?
Will mostly throw up big machines, but a few trailer mounted and small tracked machines out there, also a few smaller things like on Rob's link.

Mutton



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 14 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Thanks Rob

@onemanband - I hadn't, no, not even heard of such things. I did searches with things like "silt pump" and "ditch/pond clearance" and the like. Some fun things on YouTube, like a whacking great pump hung off a JCB pumping silt out of a drainage cut on the Somerset Levels, and pumps with an agitator on the front that can pump gravel but...
I'll go do those searches. Good idea.

(The silt pumps are generally needing tractors, or three phase electricity, or are a 2m cube diesel thing. Lovely engineering, but.....)

onemanband



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 14 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Mutton wrote:

@onemanband
I'll go do those searches. Good idea.


Don't get your hopes up. My search terms will mostly throw up stuff that is too big. Worth a look tho.

There's also 'air spades' - basically blasting with compressed air - dunno if that's of interest/relevance.

dpack



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 14 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

my first option is fun and easy though it might upset the wildlife

it was the "farming with dynamite" post years ago that made me think of it and a quick google chi confirmed that it works with modern kit .

a big hoover seems a nice tool ,my 50 lt one was ace for blocked drains ,builders muck etc .

maybe a pressure hose and a slurpy tube combo would be the machine for small ditches

a 500m rise of mud is my idea of a fun morning

Ty Gwyn



Joined: 22 Sep 2010
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 14 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

How long,wide and deep is this ditch?
Presume the silting is due to the field being flat,not that the tree roots help,but is it the same situation either side of you on the neighbour`s land?
How much water does this ditch carry?

RichardW



Joined: 24 Aug 2006
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Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales
PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 14 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Unless this if a concrete ditch of some sort I cant see a vacuum even one of steroids being up to the job. Perhaps if you also use an air spade to do the digging / shaping of the ditch & then use the Vac to remove whats left over.

hindsjohn



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 17 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I'm not sure this product is the answer http://ecoblastsupplies.co.uk/cleaning-equip-cmp/industrial-vacuum-system/ but I have used them before and if this isn't suitable they are great at coming up with bespoke solutions.

Slim



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Location: New England (In the US of A)
PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 17 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I love when a new post brings up an old thread that I completely missed. Particularly one with such interesting subject matter.

I'd love to hear what was eventually used

(fingers crossed it was the explosives )

gregotyn



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Location: Llanfyllin area
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 17 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

You and me both, Slim. I missed this first time round-but not sure I would have any answers anyway

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