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buzzy

Joined: 04 Jan 2011
Posts: 3708
Location: In a small wood on the edge of the Huntingdonshire Wolds

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 18 2:53 pm Post subject:
Since the onions will be larger/taller (presumably) than the garlic wouldn't it be better to have them in the centre and the garlic outside? Henry

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 5864
Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 18 2:57 pm Post subject:
I would be surprised to see onions larger than garlic. Garlic tends to shoot up out of the ground a bit faster than onions, so should reach height first as well. Then again, I'm speaking from a different perspective than perhaps UK growers. Here the norm is to plant garlic in mid-October and harvest in July/August, and to plant onion starts in April/May and harvest in August

sgt.colon

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
Posts: 6926
Location: Just south of north.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 18 3:01 pm Post subject:
I am over wintering both the garlic and the onions but I was going with garlic down the middle as I have more onions than I do garlic.

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
Posts: 12591

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 18 6:02 am Post subject:
It is up to you. I tend to plant garlic one end of the bed and fill the rest with onions.

gz

Joined: 23 Jan 2009
Posts: 7143
Location: Ayrshire, Scotland

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 18 8:50 am Post subject:
A better plan MR, as they get lifted at different times

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 44719
Location: Essex

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 18 9:12 am Post subject:
One day I'll have a veg plot again. God I miss home grown leeks, garlic and onions. I alway grew onions and shallots from seed, plant in pots indoors boxing dayish. Always much better than sets for me. Long Red Florence onions and Cuisse de Poulet shallots...

sgt.colon

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
Posts: 6926
Location: Just south of north.

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 18 9:40 am Post subject:
I'll go with your suggestion MR, thanks. So one last question. Garlic seems quite expensive for a bulb or two, so am I able to save a couple of home grown ones next year to replant more garlic? Or does quality reduce that way? Thanks.

sgt.colon

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
Posts: 6926
Location: Just south of north.

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 18 9:42 am Post subject:

tahir wrote:

One day I'll have a veg plot again.

Do you not have the room or the time these day's Tahir?

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 44719
Location: Essex

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 18 9:58 am Post subject:
Time, too busy with the 1000s of trees some muppet planted

sgt.colon

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
Posts: 6926
Location: Just south of north.

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 18 10:07 am Post subject:
You want to be having words with him.

Behemoth

Joined: 01 Dec 2004
Posts: 19023
Location: Leeds

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 18 12:50 pm Post subject:
I've used this lot ion the past though the best crop I had was a variety they no longer supply called 'music'. https://www.reallygarlicky.co.uk/garlic

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 44719
Location: Essex

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 18 12:55 pm Post subject:
Music was a great variety

Behemoth

Joined: 01 Dec 2004
Posts: 19023
Location: Leeds

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 18 1:04 pm Post subject:
Its widely available in North America but can't find a supplier here.

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 5864
Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 18 1:03 am Post subject:

sgt.colon wrote:

I'll go with your suggestion MR, thanks.

So one last question. Garlic seems quite expensive for a bulb or two, so am I able to save a couple of home grown ones next year to replant more garlic? Or does quality reduce that way?

Thanks.

Most farms save their own seed. You'll just want to save nice large bulbs, that don't look unhealthy in anyway.

Big concerns would be if you had white rot, garlic bloat nematode, and maybe bulb mite less so.

If the site's been free of onions/garlic for a while you'll probably not have any problems.

sgt.colon

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
Posts: 6926
Location: Just south of north.

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 18 9:34 am Post subject:
Thanks Slim. As far as I know it hasn't had either grown there in quite a few years.

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