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jema
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 20 3:38 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote    



Levelling, planting, glazing. Finding the ground noticeably softer in the exposed corner. The design notches out that corner and I am sure that that is for the best.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 20 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Good progress

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 20 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

moving soft stuff to find a solid base to support what is above it is a fine plan

the planters look good, even with a north west aspect i get a decent crop off things that will grow in those conditions in a similar size area of fishboxes on a pallet and tarp woodshed.

having a back wall cuts lots of wind damage etc.

i just had a after stage thought

water and gravity are a good combo, i recon you could rig watering to be little more than opening a tap or valve with drips and trickles etc.
that, good feeding and sun might be easy and very productive.

jema
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 20 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Started on a small bit of the roof, when it suddenly occurred to me that I under ordered on everything, in anticipation of being able to more accurately order the remainder.
Now of course that is problematic
So for the time being nothing but the raised beds and whilst I will do the posts to the desired height the beds will fall short.
The intention was never for most them to be as raised at the one I have done, but to stagger them with some very much lower for things like beans.
We will have to see how the stocks hold up.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 20 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    



Decided to be optimistic, I think I can complete the U shape as I actually want it, and then what would have been a central bed, can just be something cobbled together or nothing at all. Of course no roof, as half a roof would be a wind trap I reckon.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 20 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

if the centre is open for a while it gives chance to think how it could best be used
partial roofs are over rated unless you grow alpines, avoiding things that will catch wind or cause other isses to themselves or other stuff is best .

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 20 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Put a brace across the new raised bed, as I think it would have bulged a bit otherwise, some earth in, clearing a little more ground, but it's too cold and windy to enjoy it.
I think it's going to be some terracing next, before more beds get made.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 20 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

digging etc can be done in gloves and it will keep you warm if you are well fed

, meats, bread, pies, buns , pick shovel in a wheelbarrow.
the classic groundworker's toolbag

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 20 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

No photo at this point but have been clearing further along the deck, the ground there is full of bits of brick and very solid.
This makes me think a redesign is in order. It seem daft not to use the solid ground whilst it is above the level I have cut down to. Equally whilst I cut my U shaped design before one arm of the U hits very soft ground, the more I can avoid that area the better.
So subject to more clearing and forensics, the design will become an L, bed space will be about the same subject to how long the L can be.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 20 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

solid is good, very good

if it is a fairly flat bit of brick rubble etc chances are the machine was compacting that as it extended the slope and got rid of excess earth and bits.

the steeper bits may be fluffier as that has not been compacted

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 20 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Another moment of clarity is that I was going to start on the terracing, but with the L approach whilst I still want to do the "forensics" first, the inner part of the L which would now be lower beds are far away from any terracing.
So not only are they not going to exhaust the timber to hand, but they can pretty much be done now and if I am only making them 3 boards high, then I don't really need to make their corner posts part of the greenhouse/building it will eventual be part of.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 20 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

and another eureka moment. Just because I cannot put heavy raised beds on the weak spots does not mean I cannot stick a light structure there, so if I can do that there can be access on both sides of the inner L and that means it can be a lot bigger. Bigger is good and more efficient. e.g.

1M2 of raised bed uses 4M of wood
4M2 of raised bed uses 8M of wood

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 20 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 20 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Just make sure you can reach all parts of the raised beds. We made our first ones 1.5m wide, and can't easily reach the middle. The later ones are 1m wide and far easier to deal with. If you are doing L shapes, you need to be able to reach all parts from one side or the other.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 20 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    




Been suffering from a gouty toe that I wanted to recover before cracking on, but got fed up yesterday and cracked on with part of the "L" bed, another bed will fit in between the new bed and the bed bottom left of the picture, the camera angle is deceptive on the space there.

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