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bimini



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 20 8:02 pm    Post subject: Using plywood outside Reply with quote
    

I am planning on making a bird table and an owl nestbox using plywood. My local merchant doesn't stock exterior quality ply and has suggested that hardwood ply would be fine outside if I treat it with waterproofing. Any advice? Thanks in advance.

dpack



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 20 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

basic roofing board will last a decade, good ply and varnish ditto

marine ply is best for any damp situation, not immortal but quite robust

unless it has plastic veneer all sides and it does not need cutting avoid owt with a chipboard core

up cycle is a tidy way to find materials for such projects, offcuts or bits of redundant furniture etc can be useful, spend the cash on good fixings

PS the birds don't mind what it is made of or what it looks like if it holds their lunch or makes a house
you can paint it to blend in etc

for an owl house a plastic barrel or other owl size box with a suitable porch/door works

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 20 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Does it have to be plywood? As Dpack says, you may be able to get offcuts of timber from odd places that would do the job. We have used our own western red cedar for bird boxes in the past. They were popular with purchasers and also with the birds as one couple came back for another one a month later as the first one was already inhabited.

Nick



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 20 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I’ve done some reading around this. To make an proper house for a decent owl it needs a sign, so everyone knows.

‘WOL’

tahir



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 20 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Plywood will look tatty after a while, I'd definitely go for solid timber if possible. Plywood will probably be usable for 10 years or so just won't look nice.

Oh, and remember Nick is a tit

dpack



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 20 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    


Nick



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 20 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

tahir wrote:
Plywood will look tatty after a while, I'd definitely go for solid timber if possible. Plywood will probably be usable for 10 years or so just won't look nice.

Oh, and remember Nick is a tit



This seems harsh.

Shan



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 20 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Nick wrote:
tahir wrote:
Plywood will look tatty after a while, I'd definitely go for solid timber if possible. Plywood will probably be usable for 10 years or so just won't look nice.

Oh, and remember Nick is a tit



This seems harsh.

..but fair.

dpack



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 20 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

i am a bit of a booby at times if that helps

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 20 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Nick, it does, but even WOL couldn't spell, so not much chance of the real ones being able to either.

Nick



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 20 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Mistress Rose wrote:
Nick, it does, but even WOL couldn't spell, so not much chance of the real ones being able to either.



Rusticwood



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 20 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I agree with the others even painted or varnished ply will start separating after a few years if you dont keep refreshing it. Timber would be better.
If you do have to use ply a good WBP ply would be as good as a marine ply ( marine is more resistant to marine borers )

Shan



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 20 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Red Cedar would be an excellent choice.

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