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dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 21 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

ideal for the lower part of that potentially unstable slope onto the water meadow , it should head down into the soggy bit and do "organic rebar" to the slope

ace at drying a boggy patch

pretty good for stabilizing river banks as well

bad in a dry garden, near drains or foundations

right plant, right place is not just about food n flowers

with fruit trees the same top can be on a large rootstock or a dwarf one and fan trained depending on where it is to go etc

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 21 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

That is true Dpack. The problem comes when people decide to put something like a willow sculpture in the middle of a lawn.

dpack



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jema
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 21 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

dpack wrote:
tis in the post and should land tomorrow or soon after


thanks, I think that explains a missed delivery. Rescheduled for tomorrow.

dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 21 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

it should be ok, tis dormant and wrapped

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 21 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Has arrived.
Thank you so much.

dpack



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 21 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

ace, glad it arrived.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 21 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

and planted, so fingers crossed.

Slim



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 21 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I know that it shouldn't still surprise me, but it boggles my mind that you could plant a tree in January.
We're predicted somewhere between 8" & 16" of snow the next few days...

dpack



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 21 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

jema wrote:
and planted, so fingers crossed.




with a root system like that it should take, it will probably come up as a set of whips, let them grow for a couple of years then choose a main one and work from that in a micro coppice sort of way

as it is both rebar and a screen at the mo establishing the root system is the first part of the plan

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 21 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I'm thinking move the two raised beds back a little and enclosing the path making it wide enough for the greenhouse staging we have. Going to make it all a greenhouse with a pitched roof. Not sure between lightweight posting or heavyweight to allow for more substantial terracing.




dpack



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 21 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

anything that size will have a lot of wind issues, strong posts can help with that and terracing

i grew up with wind, have lived in fabric houses etc
good attachments to the floor matter

folk accuse me of over engineering stuff but my riposte is it works and stays working if you have an oily rag to it now and again

jema
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 21 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

My counterpoint would be that 2" by 2" posts with mounted panels of polycarb on 2"x2" frames is going to be reasonably substantial and unlike the decking I'm doing, it will all be accessible. As such if it really does prove to be under engineered, it's little fuss to repair it to MKII.
I'm generally accused of over engineering, but here I think the lighter it is, the cheaper it is and the easier to make changes.
I find it hard to conceive that it won't be a few times more robust than our cheap and nasty polycarb greenhouse.

Slim



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 21 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

2x2 with butt joints, is going to be different than 2x2 with triangulation and hurricane ties or some other form of metal brackets at the unions

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 21 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

If you are a little unsure and might want to make changes, then perhaps the lighter weight and cheaper option is better. As Slim says, you can have struts at the corners and perhaps storm rig it if necessary. If you are sure of what you want, then the heavier option might be better.

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