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dpack



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 21 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

started 2 years ago is looking rather poorly, the rootstock stem died off above the graft and seems to be dying down past it

two older ones look good, one of them has two grafts of what look like different scions

one of those has just thrown a flower which is a bit late but indicates it is healthy
the other is still settling

until i get fruit i have no idea what they are

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 21 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I suppose if you were really organised, you would have made a not of them. Still, that means being super organised, which very few people are.

dpack



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 21 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

these are ones with no names, i know where they came from

sorry best i can do

having 2 or maybe 3 old and unnamed genetics is a start, i will try to do better

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 21 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

That's pretty good as it will keep the old varieties going. Can you get them identified? Brogdale used to be able to do this, but not sure if they still do. Who knows; you might have a newly identified variety. An unknown crab apple was found growing near us and found to be a new variety. It was named after one of the local country park rangers.

dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 21 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

they had no idea of a name for the russet one, the others they have not seen yet

one flower is promising(i typed that as pommacing to start wih )

dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 21 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

ps as they derive from old orchard stock it seems likely they have a name but we do not know it

dpack



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 22 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

hello again

this is a bit less than organized however

2 or 3 stocks with grafts have got fruit
they are a bit tangled and one stock certainly has two grafts

at this stage it looks like a big green one, a reddish one and a russet

i am hoping it is the dormouse russet with no name

will have a closer look with steps

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 22 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Good they have all taken. Why it it a dormouse russet?

dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 22 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

from the old hospital orchard by the doormouse pub

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 22 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I see.

dpack



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 22 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

the surviving grafts have given fruit

one is a small russet eater, the dormouse genes iirc, crisp, deep flavour, a bit rhino skinned
the other is a big, fluffy type, good flavour, sweet, nice eater, probably ideal for fast cook as well

both are no names so far, the folk at "apple world" did not know from MK1 eyeball of tree and fruit
if i can keep them going, i might pay for dna testing to see if they are listed
both are nice and should be preserved if possible

tt brought me a tom putts from one of the trees i have nursed a little
smallish crops this year, in size and numbers, good quality though

they are commercially available and a good tree for kitchen orchards so i have not tried grafting those (and the nursed ones will probably outlast me)

commercial apples as found in most shops are a shameful exercise in marketing and logistics rather than splendid fruit

dpack



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 22 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

ps if the russet has no name i may call it dormouse rhino, the skin needs a good blade or paleo teeth

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 22 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Sounds an interesting name.

I am glad to say the place I buy my fruit and veg is currently going through the early apples and also has a good range of plums. There were greengages, two plum varieties and damsons on offer last week as well as 4 varieties of early to main crop apples.

dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 22 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

i cooked one of the type bigger ones, stored ok for a while greasy coat is good for that

lots of sugar in the fruit, very fragrant, nice texture profile

no idea what it is but it is a good un, as single ingredient cooked in a little water tis ace

these trees need planting out

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 22 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

We have one wilding in the garden that produces reasonable fruit, but the other is rubbish and needs to come down. The fruit is small, pulpy and with no flavour, so not even worth putting into crab apple jelly.

I also have a whole load of quinces (the large yellow pear shaped ones) to deal with, so will make some wine, quince brandy, which is really nice, and perhaps poach a few. I have enough quince jelly from previous years to keep us going for a while, and it tends to produce well on a 2 year cycle.

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