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tahir



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 22 2:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Removing scent from old furniture Reply with quote
    

Treacodactyl wrote:
We've mainly furnished our house with old oak furniture and some drawers have a lingering 'old lady' scent, probably from hand cream and soap rather that a leaky bottle of perfume.


Some furniture waxes smell like that. There was one that I tried but had to bin because of the smell. If it's the wax then maybe a light sanding and reoiling with danish or something?

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 22 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

A bit messier than charcoal pellets, but ordinary British charcoal for a barbecue might work. Otherwise a lump of western red cedar is an alternative.

Lavender is used in some furniture polish; could that be the 'old lady' scent you find objectionable?

dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 22 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

i think i know the aroma palette in question, lavender from polish may be a component but there are a lot of aromatics involved and "maturing" together over time

going by his and hers sets, with the same, timber, location and cleaning regimes etc they smell very different

ps a base smell that matures over time as well as forming a significant part of old draws scent is napthaline from mothballs, the complex derivatives of that one are very diverse

Nicky cigreen



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 22 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

might have been scented drawer liners or the use of lavender bags to put off moths. Funny how it lingers.

If you can't get rid of the small, introducing a preferable smell as MR suggested with the red cedar is a good idea.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 22 12:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Removing scent from old furniture Reply with quote
    

tahir wrote:
Some furniture waxes smell like that. There was one that I tried but had to bin because of the smell. If it's the wax then maybe a light sanding and reoiling with danish or something?


I know what you mean, I have one I don't use as it smells horrible. The others do smell solventy when applied but that quickly wears off leaving no real smell.

I recognise this smell, a basic hand cream type smell, rather than a strong scent. I don't mind it at all but it's strong enough to make clothes smell the same. I'm more of a damp wood and dog person.

It's not moth balls, or smoke or anything else unpleasant but it hasn't faded for over a year so would like to try something to reduce it.

Heat, as in sun, might help but I don't want to damage or fade the wood. Perhaps a place drawer in a bin bag full of shavings in the sun?

tahir



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 22 5:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Removing scent from old furniture Reply with quote
    

Treacodactyl wrote:
Heat, as in sun, might help but I don't want to damage or fade the wood. Perhaps a place drawer in a bin bag full of shavings in the sun?


Maybe airing would be better? Put them out somewhere sheltered on a dry windy day?

Jam Lady



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 22 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Try placing a sachet of activated charcoal such as used in aquarium filters or oven hood fan extractors in the drawer. Close, go away for a while (a few days, a week?) and see if it helped. New sachets, not used.

What you can try used are coffee grounds. Spread used grounds in a thin later on baking sheet and heat in 250 degree Fahrenheit oven until dry (perhaps after baking / roasting something and the oven is turned off and beginning to cool down.) Place dry coffee grounds in an open bowl, place in drawer, close and go away for a while.

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 22 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Western red cedar will absorb smells as well as giving an alternative scent. Someone on another, defunct, forum used it in his van to absorb the smell of 2 smelly landscape gardeners. Charcoal will also absorb smells; even barbecue charcoal will work, but activated charcoal as found in filters as Jam Lady suggest will be better as it absorbs organics far more effectively.

dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 22 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

at least 3 votes for activated charcoal

cheapest is industrial such as for spray booth filters etc, a kilo is plenty for a few bits of furniture

fish tank stuff is pricy

decent ordinary charcoal, crush to rice crispy size and dedust with a sieve, put it in a metal container, the container needs a small vent to allow gasses to escape and to exclude air later, heat to red-hot for a while, keep red-hot for a bit, close gas vent, let it cool slowly, dedust again
very cheap but a bit of a faff and takes practice kit, safe place etc

filter pellets are a good choice

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 22 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

But has anyone actually used activated charcoal to draw a smell out? I know it can remove smells from the air.

A bit of googling suggests white vinegar will draw the smell out. I did wonder about alcohol and remembered I almost picked up a few 5l tubs of 75% hand wash for a couple of quid but didn't have a use for it at the time.

dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 22 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

yep musty wooden boxes etc

dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 22 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

ps i have done entire houses of stinky stuff with a combo of my suggestions
furniture, textiles, sarcostains etc

camphor is hardcore but quite effective after a few days shut and a good airing most wood will smell only of camphor and that will fade over time

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 22 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I have never come across that way of activating charcoal. The most common way is either steam or solvent. Yes, it will increase the surface area, but I think crushed British barbecue charcoal will be good enough. It is 98+% pure, so should lift a good few smells.

dpack



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 22 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

good fresh charcoal has a large surface area and assorted free radicals

certainly worth a try,

im not sure the bbq with the "waste" would be the right sort of "tasty" if it works

re the activation in a "can" a bit of damp might be involved

it was very rough chemistry when i saw it years ago, details are even rougher

treacle tin iirc

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dpack



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 22 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

ps it was related to ttdntas, better than good charcoal is a handy resource in assorted trades

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