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dpack



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 23 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Q 1 :
Sub-ans
1 A
supermarket business model

that is only part of that answer, there are quite a few others

the conformity of product to very tight parameters needs addressing along with the tight margins even for "perfect" produce and nothing for the smaller, larger or naturally shaped and anyday except contract day is also part of supermarket culture

there is probably more for that section, what do you think?

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closely related are the consumer expectations developed and aggressively promoted by supermarkets to suit their business model

Ty Gwyn



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 23 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

The fact that green grocers and small food stores don`t have empty veg shelves kind of shows the problem and the reason why.

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 23 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

It does. The farm shop I usually use has asked people to restrict their buying of certain products like peppers and tomatoes, but that could be because a lot of supermarket shoppers have found them. Our local greengrocer (he doesn't have so much local produce so don't use him so much) and another farm shop our son uses have plenty and no restrictions. In fact their FB pages have been advertising the they have plenty of the 'rare' produce.

dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 23 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

an observation regarding both food security and standards
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coolday
5 minutes ago
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"Post-Brexit trade deals with Canada and Mexico will include imports of high-carbon beef and low-welfare pork, the Guardian can reveal."

To add to the steroid filled meat we agreed to take from Australia!
Congratulations Tory Government - we are getting some truly 'magical' trade deals - all of them making the UK worse off than when we were in the EU


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it was mentioned before it was too late

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 23 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Judging by the report that some imported meat is being sold as British, we can't be sure of any supermarket meat these days. It is said it isn't being distributed from the 'big five' supermarkets and the Co-op and one other claim they don't use that supplier either, so no idea which one.

It seems the farm shop I use has given up rationing tomatoes and peppers as no notice this week, so assume their supplier is coming up with their orders all right.

Nicky cigreen



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Location: Devon, uk
PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 23 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Mistress Rose wrote:

It seems the farm shop I use has given up rationing tomatoes and peppers as no notice this week, so assume their supplier is coming up with their orders all right.


Mylocal shop has had tomatoes and peppers etc without restriction throughout - I could have taken one of those pictures ex-pats have been bragging about and say 'its ok where I am'. The problem is a UK supermarket related one, due to how much they are willing to pay. And I guess in turn, how much the customer expects to pay. When adverse weather results in less produce.. prices go up. Suppliers will supply to those willing to pay. The plentiful fruit and veg seen abroad costs more than it costs here.

but in fact it still has had no impact on me either way, as I don't buy fresh tomatoes in Feb and March... because they aren't in season...

Ty Gwyn



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 23 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Judging by the report that some imported meat is being sold as British, we can't be sure of any supermarket meat these days. It is said it isn't being distributed from the 'big five' supermarkets and the Co-op and one other claim they don't use that supplier either, so no idea which one.

Think Wholesalers,the likes of Booker they stock foreign imported meats,and are`nt they a subsidary of one of the big five.

gz



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Location: Ayrshire, Scotland
PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 23 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Booker is Tesco

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 23 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Round here Booker is the wholesaler that a lot of the small shops use. The report mentioned a supermarket rather than it affecting small shops, so no idea. After the horse meat scandal that sort of thing was supposed to have been sorted out, but of course with Trading Standards departments being cut to the bone and beyond there is nobody to enforce things.

tahir



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 23 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

It's Booths

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 23 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Yes, I read that yesterday. I understand that they are a northern supermarket and don't think I have ever come across them. Sounds as if they are usually high quality; they were described as the 'northern Waitrose', so rather difficult for them.

dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 23 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

not familiar with the firm, although i am a bit northern

the nature of supermarket strategy such that"a northern" "never heard of them" small chain will be swallowed by the bigger fish

a local supplier with a local/adaptable supply chain and a well-informed local customer base is less vulnerable to supermarket issues of supply or "diligence issues"

a "local shop" who supplies domestic and/or trade needs with good produce is worth support, and you get nice food

i if wanted more than a fish local is overnight from the far northwest having been landed that morning, quayside shopping by trusting your fishmonger is ace

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 23 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

We have fishmongers, but to the only way to get to them is to travel about 15 miles or find them at a Farmers Market. It is local caught on the whole, but tend not to have a lot of fish anyway. Meat, veg and British fruit is local grown. We are fortunate to still have some orchards and large storage sheds round here and several farms that specialise in vegetables and soft fruit. There are also very large greenhouses not far away that do things like early and late tomatoes, peppers and a few other things. Not so eco friendly perhaps, but better than massive greenhouses in Spain in some ways.

dpack



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 23 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

baldrick is unhappy

these irony meters are not robust enough

Ty Gwyn



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 23 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

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