Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 804 Location: Pembrokeshire
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 05 5:01 pm Post subject:
without seing the stem I can't be absolutly sure, but first one looks like an elder seedling. The spiky one probably Lords and Ladies. No idea about other one.
judith
Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Posts: 22789 Location: Montgomeryshire
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 05 5:09 pm Post subject:
The middle one looks like Lady's Mantle to me. Agree with everyone else on the other two.
You see, it does look like ground elder, but that means that a little seedling like that looks like elder, at least the leaves do. The leaves are actually more reminiscent of alexanders, but that's clearly not likely in a woodland in Hampshire (unless it's right near the sea) and it's also a bit small for an Alexander at this time of year.
wellington womble
Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Posts: 15051 Location: East Midlands
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 05 9:22 am Post subject:
Damn - there's lots of exhibit A on our walks, and I've been wondering if it was edible! I'll stick to nettles!
plant c looks like an elderberry seedling - the leaves look very sharply toothed too much for ground elder. if it stinks it probably is elderberry! plant b looks like it's going to grow alot, some kind of scrambler/ climber thingy? that notch at the edge of the leaf where it joins the stem looks familiar, possibly a hop or bryony? plant a: lords and ladies
jacky
plant c looks like an elderberry seedling - the leaves look very sharply toothed too much for ground elder.
I thought that... But then it also looks like Alexanders, and it also looks a bit like Angelica, and just once in a while a ground elder gets a bit beaten looking like that... Hard to say, isn't it?
plant b looks like it's going to grow alot, some kind of scrambler/ climber thingy?
Not a mallow or something? I just thought from the shape of the leaves and the way the stems splay out; but I think it's a bit early and I don't think they attach to the stem like that. I always think of pea family, with the leaves wrapped around the stem like that.
Treacodactyl Downsizer Moderator
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 25795 Location: Jumping on the bandwagon of opportunism
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 05 6:30 pm Post subject:
Arh, plant B looks like Bryony to me. It will climb with tendrils up something close and produce small white/green flowers and red fruits.....I think. The fruits are poisonous, not sure of the plant.
I do like this kind of thread (and Pilsbury's, about the borage/comfrey/alkanet thing). Quite fun looking through our books for things, and as Cab suggested last week I am going to try and post up the plants in our garden that I'm not quite certain about.
hmmm, just looking at the leaf lower right it seems to be distinctly lobed. My field guide shows white bryony bryonia cretica to have 5 lobes and tendrils. I have some mallow in the garden - common mallow - also lobed; but the stems are a lot more woody in appearance in my garden specimens. Field guide says lvs often with a small dark spot. Something about the look of this plant says vigorous grower to me. I daresay all will be revealed in the fullness of spring! can we have some feedback from the photographer please?
jacky
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