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judith



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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 05 12:03 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

I read somewhere that if you dry elderflowers, and then put them in with your stored apples, it makes them taste of pineapple!
I'll leave it to others to decide whether this is a Good Thing, but it would be interesting to see if it works.

cab



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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 05 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

sean wrote:
Definitely making syrup this weekend. I might try a couple of the others too. What type of batter would you use for the fritters?


Something thin and light. I like to beat the egg whites, beat the egg yolks with flour and milk, and fold them together. Doesn't come out meringue like, but it comes out reasonably airy. Then I serve the fritters with honey.

Gervase



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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 05 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Lucky buggers - elder up here is at least a week away from flowering; a shame now the weather's getting warm enough for some lovely refreshing elderflower champagne.

Mad Dad



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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 05 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I have an elder on the lottie which will be flowering eventually (its grim up north) and Ive never tried using elder flowers. Never used the berries either (the birds get up really early round here and beat me to them). However, if anybody can post some recipes for the flowers I'll certainly give them a go and report back.

mochyn



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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 05 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

These southern softies, eh? Ours are a week off yte, too, but I'll be doing fritters, champagne & syrup ( the things we usually do). Any other ideas? Especially for things that will keep.

ButteryHOLsomeness



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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 05 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

could someone please post a few really clear photos of elder trees and flowers... i really want to try them but i haven't a clue what they look like and my searches on google have been, well a bit fruitless (you can groan now)

nettie



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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 05 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I'll be doing the fritters too, and the champagne and cordial. Also some ice cream - if you infuse the flowers in sugar for a day or two, the sugar takes on all the lovely flavour If you want to cheat add a splash of cordial to the mixture instead

cab



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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 05 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Buttery, there's a picture and links to more pictures in the may article:

http://www.downsizer.net/Projects/Wild_Food/Top_Ten_Wild_Foods_for_May/

Have a look also using the scientific name; put that into google images and you may have more joy.

jema
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 05 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Did a bit of "the rounds" today and yesterday and some elderflower is appearing, but i fgure a few weeks to see lots. Unless I am getting it totally arse about face and it is on the way out.

cab



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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 05 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Interesting... Sounds like for elder at least, Cambride is way ahead of everywhere else. Most peculiar.

I've got my wine and champagne on, and had enough spare to make strawberry and elderflower jam.

Putting the finishing touches to the June article now (sorry Bugs, been very busy!), but I'll hack out some elderflower recipes next.

ButteryHOLsomeness



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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 05 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

cab wrote:
Buttery, there's a picture and links to more pictures in the may article:

http://www.downsizer.net/Projects/Wild_Food/Top_Ten_Wild_Foods_for_May/

Have a look also using the scientific name; put that into google images and you may have more joy.


thanks for the photo cab. i had a look in both my encylopaedia of herbs and encylopedia of gardening and they both talk about Sambucus nigra BUT neither shows a decent photo either i'm looking for something now on google

didn't someone say they smell funny as they're growing?

do they flowers smell nice? there's a tree down the way that i thought might be elder but i want to be sure before i go eating the flowers

ButteryHOLsomeness



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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 05 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

ooh i just found an excellent link for for a photo of elder here

http://www.cnr.vt.edu/dendro/dendrology/syllabus/factsheet.cfm?ID=85

cab



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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 05 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

ButteryHOLsomeness wrote:

didn't someone say they smell funny as they're growing?

do they flowers smell nice? there's a tree down the way that i thought might be elder but i want to be sure before i go eating the flowers


The leaves smell horrid. The flowers smell either like champagne and ice cream, or something that comes out of a cat, people seem to differ on that one.

Mat S



Joined: 07 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 05 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Here in Leicester I found enough yesterday to get wine started and used the leftovers to make a couple of gallons of cordial. Still lots of flowers left to make berries later in the year too...

ButteryHOLsomeness



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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 05 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

cab wrote:
ButteryHOLsomeness wrote:

didn't someone say they smell funny as they're growing?

do they flowers smell nice? there's a tree down the way that i thought might be elder but i want to be sure before i go eating the flowers


The leaves smell horrid. The flowers smell either like champagne and ice cream, or something that comes out of a cat, people seem to differ on that one.


hmmmmmm interesting contrast between those two

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