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Will a break barrel air rifle be kill a rabbit?
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vegplot



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 08 5:56 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

matt mavin wrote:
i would be shooting from 25-20 yards away from a ditch. i went over the farmers field today and he told me where all their tunnels are and where he thought i should shoot from


Give it a go. Be prepared to wield the priest. If you find you're getting clean kills then fine if not refine your shooting to get better groups or re-asses the killing potential of your rifle.

matt mavin



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 08 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Good call

Thanks for all the help:D

vegplot



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 08 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Is there a reason you won't shoot .22LR? You have the field and the permission. You'll need to get the land cleared with the police if it's not already on their register. A .22LR rifle is often quite a bit cheaper than a decent air rifle. CZ 452 Varmint 16" barrel £310 for example.

matt mavin



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 08 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

As i dont want to get a gun licence etc im happy with my small air rifle and if it is no good for hunting then i wont hunt

RichardW



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 08 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

vegplot wrote:

They measured 745fps with lead for a rifle with a claimed 1000 fps so a rifle with a claimed 850 fps would give less than 745fps.


Ah but the 1000fps was not with lead

matt mavin wrote:
Im not to sure of the answers but i went on their webstie and got this, its has.....

Velocity: 1000 feet per second (fps) with PBA, 850 fps with Lead



Richard

Pilsbury



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 08 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

If you are really unsure take it to your local gun smith and ask him to check the power, its a simple, quick test for him and you will have a good idea of it is up to the job, you want it as close to the 12ft/lb limit as it can be without the risk of it going over if you use slightly lighter pellets.
If you are still unsure post its power in this thread and those in the know will tell you if its a good idea to try it on the bunnies.

RichardW



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 08 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Or heavier pellets too. I cant remember which is which but some get more power with light pellets & some with heavier ones. I think its springers with light & PCP with heavy. That said the most I can get out of mine (PCP) is not with the heaviest pellets avaliable. To stay legal your rifle must not go over 12ftlb with any avaliable pellet. So you need to be about 11.5 ish to be safe. The police will test with a selection of pellets not just the ones you use. Oh & if you do take it to the local RFD & it tests over the legal limit he can n ot let you have it back & you can not ask him to de tune it & have it back. ODD but true. However I would guess that most would do the work for a fee & give back.


Richard

Pilsbury



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 08 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Just to add i have taken rabbits with my old BSA Meateor break barrel.

RichardW



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 08 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Pilsbury wrote:
Just to add i have taken rabbits with my old BSA Meateor break barrel.




Lol

Pilsbury



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 08 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Ahh well it almost looked right last night

matt mavin



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 08 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

haha

thanks for all the help

Lloyd



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 08 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

The issue here isn't the fact that it's a break barrel, as many of the best varminting airguns since their invention have been break barrells. Take the Weirauch HW77 for example, or the early BSA's. As previously stated, the issue is muzzle velocity, coupled with accurate placing of the pellett in a kill zone of either behind the front elbow (heart and lungs), or between the eye and the ear (brain).

dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 08 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

i have also decided to hunt to manage bunnies with .22 12 ft lt air weapon by using hides and sneakyness
in flat land a back stop is rarer than a safe distance into salad and i hate loud bangs
yep i know a hmr(or .22 for less damage )might be better but im more inclined to get a long net than get a bunny sized fac or get used to biting shot again
i recon perfect bunny weapon is a well trained dog ,or nets with or without ferrets
however from experience and teaching from the good folk here there are many ways

Lloyd



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 08 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I must say that in recent years using a .17hmr that the damage was always to the area of impact. I therefore always went for headshots, and invariably there was half a head left. No damage to the meat at all. That said, nothing wrong with air rifles of either calibre in the hands of an accurate handler who has zeroed the sights and knows the limitations of their weapon, and the safety issues.

vegplot



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 08 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

dpack wrote:
i have also decided to hunt to manage bunnies with .22 12 ft lt air weapon by using hides and sneakyness
in flat land a back stop is rarer than a safe distance into salad and i hate loud bangs
yep i know a hmr(or .22 for less damage )might be better but im more inclined to get a long net than get a bunny sized fac or get used to biting shot again
i recon perfect bunny weapon is a well trained dog ,or nets with or without ferrets
however from experience and teaching from the good folk here there are many ways


More than one way to skin a rabbit.

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