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resistance is fertile



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 08 7:14 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

Everything you say about the Tikka is as I found.

Given the safe bolt bit, I think Im off to look at some pro-hunters at the weekend!

Brownbear



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 08 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

resistance is fertile wrote:
Everything you say about the Tikka is as I found.

Given the safe bolt bit, I think Im off to look at some pro-hunters at the weekend!


You can have a go with mine if you like.

vegplot



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 08 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Brownbear wrote:
resistance is fertile wrote:
Everything you say about the Tikka is as I found.

Given the safe bolt bit, I think Im off to look at some pro-hunters at the weekend!


You can have a go with mine if you like.


It was also one of two recommended rifles when I went on the DSC1 course earlier this year. The other was a Blaser which has an unusual bolt system which I didn't like much.

I hand loaded some ammunition (33.2 gns H4895 driving a 130gn target bullet) for my 7x57 and it's a lot less harsh than the factory ammo I bought (168gn expanding) cheaply for the brass. Going to try 120gn expanding next and sight in for 100 yds 2" high and then put it through some field tests.

I'm a bit miffed as I seem to have mislaid the top cap on my Leupold scope last night.

dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 08 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

hunting kit is as tricky as hunting game

vegplot



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 08 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

dpack wrote:
hunting kit is as tricky as hunting game


It's also a time waster but an enjoyable one.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 08 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

vegplot wrote:
I don't have any bolt actions, I have a 7x57 falling block Ruger no.1, but if I did I'd go for this http://www.steyr-mannlicher.com/en/jagdwaffen/pro-hunter/


Any idea how much one would cost new?

vegplot



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 08 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I would guess around £1,200-£1,300. Second hand ones are around £500-£600.

BB will know better than I.

Brownbear



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 08 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

You can get one new for about £750-£800 I think, more if you want a sound moderator. For optics, personally, I'd recommend a Schmidt and Bender 8x56 Hungarian scope, and Warne mounts. I've tried all sorts, and that's the best combo I've come across. There's a firearms dealer/range at Moretonhampstead I'd recommend, he goes to the trouble to set the rifle up, takes you on the range to zero it etc.

I can get you the details if you're interested.

vegplot



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 08 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Found one. £885 inc. vat from http://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk

Calibres: 222, .223, .260 .243, .308, .25-06, .30-06, .270, 6.5x55, 7mm-08, .376 Steyr

Much less than I thought.

Heavy barrel version £1,139 (.223, .260 .308 & 300win) so doesn't appear to be available in 6.5x55.

crofter



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 08 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Brownbear wrote:


1. The Mannox coating on the non-stainless version is more rustproof than stainless steel.



So why make the stainless one at all? Is the coating permanent, or will it need redoing at some point?

vegplot



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 08 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

crofter wrote:
Brownbear wrote:


1. The Mannox coating on the non-stainless version is more rustproof than stainless steel.



So why make the stainless one at all? Is the coating permanent, or will it need redoing at some point?


I would suggest the Manno coating is less durable. As it's a coating it could be abraided off and revewal the steel underneath.

Manno is very, very tough and satisfies those who don't won't a bright sun glinting rifle on the deer shoot and yet has excellent corrosion and durability. Stainless steel, on the other hand is harder and more durable and if you scratch it you just have a scratch. However, it's not a good material for hunting with - too shiny - and there are no effective coatings which can be applied to stainless to reduce this. Hence the Manno coating is often preferable to stainless.

resistance is fertile



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 08 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Ive found a couple round here which seem reasonably priced, package deal with warne mounts and mod for 900ish.

BB, Is the mannox coat standard on all of the non stainless models?

Brownbear



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 08 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

resistance is fertile wrote:

BB, Is the mannox coat standard on all of the non stainless models?


All the ones made since about 2005 AFAIK.

They still make the stainless because people wan tto buy the stainless, though it's way too hard. The rifling wears too fast and they still rust in any case, just slower than normal steel.

It's applied to bare metal and baked on, it's a type of ceramic and should last as long as the rifle does.

crofter



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 08 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

vegplot wrote:
and there are no effective coatings which can be applied to stainless to reduce this.


Paint?! I have an old stainless rifle, (15 years maybe) which is beginning to show a bit of corrosion here and there, it certainly isn't shiny any more. The mannox sounds pretty good.

vegplot



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 08 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

crofter wrote:
vegplot wrote:
and there are no effective coatings which can be applied to stainless to reduce this.


Paint?! I have an old stainless rifle, (15 years maybe) which is beginning to show a bit of corrosion here and there, it certainly isn't shiny any more. The mannox sounds pretty good.


Due to the high chromium content of stainless steel it's difficult to get anything to adhere to it. It can be dulled through shot blasting but it is still visually intrusive. Also, remember animals such as deer have a higher sensitivity in the ultra violet and see differently to us.

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