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Mrs R
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 09 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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cab wrote: |
colour it green wrote: |
Personally, I never understand why anyone would have an electric breadmaker..
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For me its because bread is big, and has to be bought fresh during the week, which would mean special trips to the shop just to get bread. And it also takes up a lot of space in a rucksack, which would either mean taking the pannier boxes or bike trailer (or, as often as not, having squished bread coming out of the rucksack). Carrying bags/sacks of flour in the bike trailer infrequently takes up a fraction of the space and uses a fraction of the time, and is the best way for us to have good bread. |
Ah you see, everyone is different: I don't think it takes any time at all to make bread from scratch, sans machine, yet washing up takes aaaages for me. And I don't mind handwashing laundry even though yes, that is very time consuming compared to a machine.
I think for us a lot of it may be the size of the kitchen - it's like one of those pocket games where you have to make a picture by moving the squares about! If I had a nice big sink, hot water easily available etc etc I'd feel a whole lot better about it... |
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HenX
Joined: 27 Apr 2009 Posts: 1459 Location: Forest of Dean
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Jo S
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Rob R
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cab
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cab
Joined: 01 Nov 2004 Posts: 32429
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 09 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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Nat S wrote: |
Ah you see, everyone is different: I don't think it takes any time at all to make bread from scratch, sans machine, yet washing up takes aaaages for me. And I don't mind handwashing laundry even though yes, that is very time consuming compared to a machine.
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To make bread requires having time to mix, knead, rise and bake, which is optimistically two hours if you've got the heating on and the dough will rise. Whereas doing the dishes is ten minutes. Not sure I see the comparison; you can't hurry yeast and gluten.
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I think for us a lot of it may be the size of the kitchen - it's like one of those pocket games where you have to make a picture by moving the squares about! If I had a nice big sink, hot water easily available etc etc I'd feel a whole lot better about it... |
I don't think its about the size of the sink (as long as its dinner plate sized or bigger!), I think its more about how you go about doing it. Strikes me that whether you're stacking the dishes in a dishwasher or on a drainer, makes little difference really to how much work is involved. |
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Nicky cigreen
Joined: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 9715 Location: Devon, uk
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lottie
Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5059 Location: ceredigion
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cab
Joined: 01 Nov 2004 Posts: 32429
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 09 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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colour it green wrote: |
both dishwashers and breadmakers are time saving devices.. just a matter of what you would like to spend your time on.
I just dont like breadmakers. but if it works for you, thats fine.
I would always have a dishwasher first. |
I don't believe that dishwashers are time saving devices. I think they're labour saving devices, but the time spent loading and unloading the machine seems to be so little greater than the time spent washing dishes that I'm not clear where this time saving is coming from. Loading and unloading machines while at other peoples homes seems to take so little less time than actually washing the dishes that I don't see the point.
A breadmaker saves both labour and time, to the point at which it becomes possible to have fresh bread on, say, a Wednesday, when otherwise that couldn't be the case for us.
Simply, if doing the dishes even for a houseload of people is taking too long, seems to me you're doing it wrong. Doing the dishes in our house is faster and uses less water and I should think energy than for friends who use dishwashers. I don't get where the advantage in having a dishwasher is, except for those who have designed and built kitchens with the assumption that there must be a dishwasher. And then the obvious criticism is that they've engineered a gadget into their lives for little or no gain. |
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Liz in Ireland
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