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Bernie66



Joined: 14 Jan 2005
Posts: 13967
Location: Eastoft
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 05 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Behemoth wrote:
My plot's the furthest from the gate in the top far corner so somebody has to have a pretty good reason to stop by for a chat.

My manure is being delivered this week. This makes me happy.


The only time when you are happy to have a load of sh*t dumped on you!

Jonnyboy



Joined: 29 Oct 2004
Posts: 23956
Location: under some rain.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 05 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Sounds like you've got great soil Jeff, what's next?

Res



Joined: 07 Apr 2005
Posts: 1172
Location: Allotment Shed, Harlow
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 05 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Bernie66 wrote:
My second biggest problem is trying to get some work done whilst the other Allotmenteers put their advice to me at every opportunity, i never get a solid two hours work done without interuption-all good hearted but sometimes frustrating.


I dont find it so much the advice, its the bloody gossiping. Does my head it. Like a lot of you I guess, I dont get much time on the plot, so when I do, its action stations to try and get as much done as possible before you have to go off again. So there you are heaving and puffing, knowing you arnt going to get it all done but hopping that by some small miracal that you'll get finished at least what you set out to do, when you get one (if your lucky) fellow allotmenteer come over and start trying to get you involved in the current gossip "He said this", "he's done that", "have you seen fred's marrow " etc etc. Aaaaaaaah! GO AWAY!...........I'M TRYING TO GET MINE DONE!

cab



Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 32429

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 05 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Some people give you advice like "Oh, no, you can't grow celery here, that'll never work, don't like the look of that beetroot, and swedes can't be grown in Cambridge...".

Others are far more encouraging

What I like best about the constant 'advice' is that you can't follow it all, so much of it is contradictory

Jonnyboy



Joined: 29 Oct 2004
Posts: 23956
Location: under some rain.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 05 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

The only advice i would give is get the long term stuff in as soon as possible, asparagus beds and soft fruit being a couple of ideas.

Jeff



Joined: 23 Feb 2005
Posts: 145
Location: Essex
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 05 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

That's exectly what I'm going to be doing John, get the Fruit, Asparagus etc in now and continue with the rest of the site ahead of bulk spring planting...

p.s. I want to get some Asparagus in to try and get a small crop next year, how might I go about that knowing that it takes 3 years if I'm to grow it from seed

I know I can buy crowns, but can they be planted now for a moderate crop next year? And they cost a fair bit to get hold of as well don't they...???

Jonnyboy



Joined: 29 Oct 2004
Posts: 23956
Location: under some rain.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 05 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

If I had the cash I would go for crowns, you won't get much next year IIRC but the year after you should be using them to dip in your boiled eggs every day!

cab



Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 32429

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 05 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Jeff wrote:
That's exectly what I'm going to be doing John, get the Fruit, Asparagus etc in now and continue with the rest of the site ahead of bulk spring planting...

p.s. I want to get some Asparagus in to try and get a small crop next year, how might I go about that knowing that it takes 3 years if I'm to grow it from seed

I know I can buy crowns, but can they be planted now for a moderate crop next year? And they cost a fair bit to get hold of as well don't they...???


Your crop the first year, from crowns, is tiny. And it's probably advisable not to crop any.

The next year, you can tentative pluck one spear per plant, maybe two.

The year after you can start harvesting.

To be honest, if you're not aiming to be there for more than three years, I wouldn't put sparrowgrass in.

Jeff



Joined: 23 Feb 2005
Posts: 145
Location: Essex
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 05 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I understood that they took a while as you suggest Cab, and being that they need a permanent spot I might not bother with them... We'll see, I've got 30'x90' so I might just find a small corner for a few...

Fruit-wise, I did try the bramble blackberries and they are very good! I am going to keep a small tame patch of them for sure...

Other than that I'll dig up the Autumn bliss canes from my garden once they've finished and I've cut them back and get them in in the next month...

Although it's not totally advisable, I might leave introducing the Strawb's until spring time...

Bernie66



Joined: 14 Jan 2005
Posts: 13967
Location: Eastoft
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 05 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

i am growing the strawbs at home until spring, its the same size as yours and the only thing growing is japanese onions. I reckon the strawbs will be better off at home til spring

tahir



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45389
Location: Essex
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 05 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Well done Jeff, glad it's in a reasonable state.

Leonie



Joined: 13 Sep 2005
Posts: 731
Location: West Sussex
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 05 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Your allotment sounds fantastic Jeff If you're not going to have it for long, I wouldn't invest in any expensive long-term fruits unless you can easily take them with you when you move elsewhere.

Jeff



Joined: 23 Feb 2005
Posts: 145
Location: Essex
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 05 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Cheers Tahir, you'll have to come over for a peek once it's more up and running!

GJ, I will plant whatever I can as long as I get a good crop within a year or 2 and I will try to always take cuttings etc when I do move on so I'm not affraid to spend a bit of money if the reward is just.

+ I've got my mistery fruit trees to look forward to as well, (reminds me:must post pic on here for recognition )

Thanks again and will keep you all posted...

tahir



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45389
Location: Essex
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 05 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Jeff wrote:
Cheers Tahir, you'll have to come over for a peek once it's more up and running!


Might just do that, never have enough time though...

Jeff



Joined: 23 Feb 2005
Posts: 145
Location: Essex
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 05 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

tahir wrote:
Jeff wrote:
Cheers Tahir, you'll have to come over for a peek once it's more up and running!


Might just do that, never have enough time though...


Tell me about it, 4 hours on the allotment on Saturday 'Vs' 8 hours decorating on Sunday, there's something very wrong about that

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