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Nature'sgrafter



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 14 12:50 pm    Post subject: ewe with mastitis safe to eat?  Reply with quote    

simple question as I have to cull her is she safe to eat?
I hate wasting anything.

Bodger



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 14 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

They'll tell you straight away at the slaughter house. The big ones routinely have a vet on hand.

madcat



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 14 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Has she had antibiotics ? Any other meds that have a withdrawal period ?
Think the usual plan is to get them over the infection and with a bit of weight on and then down the road.

I joined Accidental Smallholder forum to find out more about such things. There's lots of sheep people on there with anything from a few pet sheep to large commercial flocks.
Lots of interesting reading and good advice.

Nature'sgrafter



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 14 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I live on an island in the north sea slaughterhouse out of question too far. No she has not had any medication so no withdrawal time.

Nick



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 14 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I'm no vet, nor food safety specialist, but when I worked on mastitis in the lab, it's most often a staph infection confined to the mammary glands, and as such, is about as dangerous as a sore throat.

I'd eat it.

If you die, however, I'm going to point out that I'm not a food safety specialist.

dpack



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 14 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

most bugs are harmless after a good boiling so cube it for curry etc,with no meds given i would be inclined to give it a go (removing the infected bit if needs be).considering that tb cull moos can be trimmed and sold as fit for human consumption ,which is an unfortunate phrase in those circumstances,i would think a non fatal udder infection was fairly harmless.if it croaked of septicemia i probably would give it a miss.

again im not qualified to make such a suggestion but i do eat roadkill etc so your call.

dpack



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 14 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

ps it would make a lot of dog food even if you dont find the idea palatable

Rob R



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 14 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Bodger wrote:
They'll tell you straight away at the slaughter house. The big ones routinely have a vet on hand.


Even the small ones do, they can't kill anything without one present. Whether that be in the killing hall or in the office drinking tea depends upon the vet.

Nicky Colour it green



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 14 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Nature'sgrafter wrote:
I live on an island in the north sea slaughterhouse out of question too far. No she has not had any medication so no withdrawal time.


what is the arrangement on Orkney if you don't have an abattoir? Does everyone do home killing?

Cathryn



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 14 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Nick wrote:
I'm no vet, nor food safety specialist, but when I worked on mastitis in the lab, it's most often a staph infection confined to the mammary glands, and as such, is about as dangerous as a sore throat.

I'd eat it.

If you die, however, I'm going to point out that I'm not a food safety specialist.


Kind of agree except that it can kill as it becomes systemic. Wait until she recovers from it and then cull. Although I was kind of assuming you meant this. A lot of culled ewes are culled for this reason and then go into the food chain.

(This is not me by the way but the commercial sheep farmer that I live with who would not eat or sell a sheep with mastitis.)

Nature'sgrafter



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 14 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Their is a abattoir on the mainland but the cost of taking it there is prohibitive works out including shipping costs at around £60 a sheep.
A lack of space is the problem with waiting until she gets better as it is contagious and I have one field with mothers with lambs the other with expectant mothers the last laying fallow growing fresh grass after winter (+ allowing for rotation re worms) oh and the garden has orphan lambs in it.

RichardW



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 14 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Weigh up the cost of finding her a space / looking after her till she is well against the value of what ever meat she would produce.

If its not weighted in the right direction just cull her now & feed to the dogs.

Cathryn



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 14 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Nature'sgrafter wrote:
Their is a abattoir on the mainland but the cost of taking it there is prohibitive works out including shipping costs at around £60 a sheep.
A lack of space is the problem with waiting until she gets better as it is contagious and I have one field with mothers with lambs the other with expectant mothers the last laying fallow growing fresh grass after winter (+ allowing for rotation re worms) oh and the garden has orphan lambs in it.

I don't know what you mean by contagious. Its infectious and some of the routes are obscure. Google mastitis in sheep and read the Moredun paper on it or speak to your vet. Internet forums sometimes have limitations when you are talking about disease.

Nature'sgrafter



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 14 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

con·ta·gious [kuhn-tey-juhs]
adjective
1. capable of being transmitted by bodily contact with an infected person or object: contagious diseases.
2. carrying or spreading a contagious disease.
3. tending to spread from person to person: contagious laughter.
Origin:
1350–1400; Middle English < Late Latin contāgiōsus, equivalent to contāgi ( ō ) contagion + -ōsus -ous

I have googled the disease hence knowing it can be passed to others but can not find an answer as to whether a ewe with the infection is fit to be eaten by humans.

Ty Gwyn



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 14 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Plenty of ewe`s that have had mastitis end up as kebab`s.

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