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Penny Outskirts

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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 07 7:48 pm Post subject: Making money from a smallholding
Well covering the costs, rather than making a living. 20 acres mixed pasture and woodland, what if anything could you do to make a bit of money from the land? It would be rented, so nothing permanent could be done

Green Man

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Location: Rural Scotland.

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 07 8:27 pm Post subject:
A wild flower maze, with picnic spots

Penny Outskirts

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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 07 8:29 pm Post subject:
That would be lovely

hedgewitch

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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 07 8:33 pm Post subject:
Could you do something like a wildflower and insect trail for children? I did something like this a long time ago for little children in an arboritum. A sheet of stuff to identify as they go round. Could be good for school children and families...

pricey

Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 07 8:35 pm Post subject:
Good Question, have thought about this a lot. We are not going to try and make money as such, just be able to sustain ourselves, pay the bills. Apart from the B&B as this will be our only income if Rita cannot find work. Sorry don't help much does it

VSS

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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 07 8:36 pm Post subject:
How long is a piece of string? There are so many variables, it is impossible to say without knowing more. But it is perfectly possible with careful thought and planning. Just up our street. have a look at www.viableselfsufficiency.co.uk

Penny Outskirts

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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 07 8:38 pm Post subject:
We just heard of something local-ish to rent on a long lease, but as we don't pay any rent at the moment, if we went somewhere like that, we'd have to make it cover the cost of the rent Just made me start musing on the subject really...very unlikely we'd be able to move there, too long a commute for schools

jamanda
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 07 8:40 pm Post subject:
Bees?

Green Man

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Location: Rural Scotland.

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 07 8:48 pm Post subject:

The current rent for agricultural land in my area is nil/acre. I know this, as I'm in negotiation with a neighbor for some land. Now the C.A.P. has been reformed farmers now get the payments they received previously, but now don't need to farm the land for food anymore. They are in fact capable of 'renting’ it out for free and claiming the payments legally. Only very big, brave farmers, or 'good lifers' like us can make use of the land without getting any Euro payments. If I were you I wouldn't agree to pay any rent for land nowadays if it is legible for Euro payments. The only drawback for me is the farmer wants a 50week lease per year so that I can't claim full tenancy rights, which is fair enough, but makes me nervous about shelling out for fencing etc.

Penny Outskirts

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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 07 8:58 pm Post subject:
It's not just the land - it's a large house too

hedgewitch

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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 07 9:03 pm Post subject:

Penny wrote:

It's not just the land - it's a large house too

Do afternoon teas and an on-site t-shirt shop from the house?

Green Man

Joined: 23 Jul 2006
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Location: Rural Scotland.

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 07 9:04 pm Post subject:
You can't expect a house for free. Do you get outbulidings? You could do the whole Jimmy's Farm thing? I would keep a few pet animals, but buy local produce to sell. If you go down this route, I have a 'secret' risk free solution. P.M. me and I will tell you my plan.

Cathryn

Joined: 16 Jul 2005
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Location: Ceredigion

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 07 10:14 pm Post subject:
Thats interesting - I wish I could persuade the farmers round here to rent out for free. Seriously how? word of mouth? I rent land for a few months most years. sounds a bit idylic Penny - what about keeping a few pigs? Sell them on here to cover costs? Oh - just an obvious one - rent out a bit to horseowners Round here it's £6 per horse per week.

Rob R

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Location: York

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 07 1:43 pm Post subject:
If I knew, I'd have some money!

hardworkinghippy

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Location: Bourrou South West France

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 07 2:03 pm Post subject:
I'm saying very little either....

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